harish@guille.ece.orst.edu (Harish Pillay) (12/07/89)
I've got PK's KA9Q running and am able to ftp into my machine and all. Problem I have is in telnetting. I get the connect message and all, but nothing appears on the machine that I'm telnetting from. The version I'm using was ftp'ed from flash.bellcore.com a few days ago so I'd assume that to be the latest. Is there some file in the likes of ftpusers that needs to be set up? Also, I'm having difficulty telnetting from my AT running net.exe by just using the name of the machine. I've defined the name of the machine in the hosts.net file and put it in the root directory but did not work. I'd appreciate any help. IMHO, I find KA9Q to be a superb piece of software! -- Harish Pillay harish@ece.orst.edu Oregon State University
karn@ka9q.bellcore.com (Phil Karn) (12/07/89)
In article <14278@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU> harish@guille.ECE.ORST.EDU (Harish Pillay) writes: > >I've got PK's KA9Q running and am able to ftp into my machine and all. >Problem I have is in telnetting. I get the connect message and all, >but nothing appears on the machine that I'm telnetting from. It's not clear from your message, but if you're trying to telnet INTO a machine running KA9Q, then what you see is exactly what should happen. The telnet "server" in my code is not a real server; it simply creates a telnet session on the remote machine so the two operators can chat in real time (like UNIX "write"). I know, it's a bit of a crock, but the hams who use my package screamed for it (keyboard chatting, as crude as it may be, is a common application for amateur packet radio, and it is actually useful at times.) Anders Klemets (klemets@sics.se) has hacked in a different Telnet server that actually allows you to issue commands to NET over the network, but it's not complete (you can't issue commands that create tasks, like sessions) and there's no security. One of these days we'll do a "real" server, once I revamp the way session output is done. Phil
harish@guille.ece.orst.edu (Harish Pillay) (12/07/89)
In article <18513@bellcore.bellcore.com> karn@ka9q.bellcore.com (Phil Karn) writes: >In article <14278@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU> harish@guille.ECE.ORST.EDU (Harish Pillay) writes: >> >>I've got PK's KA9Q running and am able to ftp into my machine and all. >>Problem I have is in telnetting. I get the connect message and all, >>but nothing appears on the machine that I'm telnetting from. > >It's not clear from your message, but if you're trying to telnet INTO >a machine running KA9Q, then what you see is exactly what should happen. >The telnet "server" in my code is not a real server; it simply creates a >telnet session on the remote machine so the two operators can chat in >real time (like UNIX "write"). > >I know, it's a bit of a crock, but the hams who use my package screamed for >it (keyboard chatting, as crude as it may be, is a common application for >amateur packet radio, and it is actually useful at times.) Anders Klemets >(klemets@sics.se) has hacked in a different Telnet server that actually >allows you to issue commands to NET over the network, but it's not complete >(you can't issue commands that create tasks, like sessions) and there's no >security. One of these days we'll do a "real" server, once I revamp the way >session output is done. > >Phil Phil, thanks for your explanation. I've got hold of the source code and I think I've got it figured out. Telnetting into a machine running KA9Q works like a unix talk program. That's fine and I think it serves some good. Actually, it might have been less misleading if it was labelled as a talk-like service (at least for the time being). I've also figured out how to:"net> telnet myhost" working. It tooks a few minutes of browsing through the code. What is needed is a domain.txt file in the root directory. This file has contents such as follows (which was created by pinging hosts after a domain server was added): my domain.txt file contents -------------------------------------------------------------- . 86400 IN SOA NIC.DDN.MIL. HOSTMASTER.NIC.DDN.MIL. 891204 1800 300 604800 86400 guille.ece.orst.edu. 43200 IN CNAME ECE.ORST.EDU. ECE.ORST.EDU. 43200 IN A 128.193.48.1 nic.ddn.mil. 468772 IN A 26.0.0.73 nic.ddn.mil. 468772 IN A 10.0.0.51 . 468772 IN NS NIC.DDN.MIL. . 468772 IN NS AOS.BRL.MIL. . 468772 IN NS A.ISI.EDU. . 468772 IN NS GUNTER-ADAM.AF.MIL. . 468772 IN NS C.NYSER.NET. . 468772 IN NS TERP.UMD.EDU. . 468772 IN NS NS.NASA.GOV. AOS.BRL.MIL. 499080 IN A 128.20.1.2 AOS.BRL.MIL. 499080 IN A 192.5.25.82 A.ISI.EDU. 468772 IN A 26.3.0.103 GUNTER-ADAM.AF.MIL. 468772 IN A 26.1.0.13 C.NYSER.NET. 468772 IN A 192.33.4.12 TERP.UMD.EDU. 468772 IN A 128.8.10.90 NS.NASA.GOV. 352376 IN A 128.102.16.10 ECE.ORST.EDU. 43200 IN SOA ECE.ORST.EDU. root.ECE.ORST.EDU. 50000327 21600 900 3600000 43200 I believe such a file is a standard one that is available on Unix boxes. In my case, I pretty much bootstraped it. ----- Harish Pillay harish@ece.orst.edu Oregon State University
nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Russ Nelson) (12/07/89)
In article <18513@bellcore.bellcore.com> karn@ka9q.bellcore.com (Phil Karn) writes:
I know, it's a bit of a crock, but the hams who use my package screamed for
it (keyboard chatting, as crude as it may be, is a common application for
amateur packet radio, and it is actually useful at times.) Anders Klemets
(klemets@sics.se) has hacked in a different Telnet server that actually
allows you to issue commands to NET over the network, but it's not complete
(you can't issue commands that create tasks, like sessions) and there's no
security. One of these days we'll do a "real" server, once I revamp the way
session output is done.
Um, Phil, my "real" server solves all the above problems.
-russ
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--russ (nelson@clutx [.bitnet | .clarkson.edu])
Live up to the light thou hast, and more will be granted thee.
A recession now appears more than 2 years away -- John D. Mathon, 4 Oct 1989.
I think killing is value-neutral in and of itself. -- Gary Strand, 8 Nov 1989.
Liberals run this country, by and large. -- Clayton Cramer, 20 Nov 1989.
Shut up and mind your Canadian business, you meddlesome foreigner. -- TK, 23 N.U0A61@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU ("Bryan, Jerry") (12/09/89)
>Um, Phil, my "real" server solves all the above problems. >-russ >-- >--russ (nelson@clutx [.bitnet | .clarkson.edu]) What do you mean a "real" server? Can you run TELNET server on your PC, log on to it from elsewhere, and run all standard PC programs remotely just as if you were typing on the PC itself?
nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Russ Nelson) (12/09/89)
In article <8912082234.aa01924@louie.udel.edu> U0A61@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU ("Bryan, Jerry") writes: >Um, Phil, my "real" server solves all the above problems. >--russ (nelson@clutx [.bitnet | .clarkson.edu]) What do you mean a "real" server? Can you run TELNET server on your PC, log on to it from elsewhere, and run all standard PC programs remotely just as if you were typing on the PC itself? In principle, yes. In practice, I don't have mappings from escape sequences to the PC keycodes. That is a relatively straightforward thing to do. I didn't do it because the project it was intended for got nixed[1]. I posted a message here quite a while ago and got very few inquiries. Now I find that people are hopping up and down about it (as I thought they should). [1] They went ahead and did it anyway without our help. NIH strikes again. Also, it only works for 25 line text mode applications. This is because it uses ANSI escape sequences to perform the updating. So since people seem to be so interested in it now, I'll put some time into improving it. Stay tuned... -- --russ (nelson@clutx [.bitnet | .clarkson.edu]) Live up to the light thou hast, and more will be granted thee. A recession now appears more than 2 years away -- John D. Mathon, 4 Oct 1989. I think killing is value-neutral in and of itself. -- Gary Strand, 8 Nov 1989. Liberals run this country, by and large. -- Clayton Cramer, 20 Nov 1989. Shut up and mind your Canadian business, you meddlesome foreigner. -- TK, 23 N.