[comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc] X-Windows for PCs, and "low level" telnet ...

HOISVE@xanadu.cc.utah.edu (David Hoisve) (06/05/90)

Two quick questions...

First, a while back, someone posted a very comprehensive list of X Windows
packages for PCs.  Does anyone have a copy?  

Second, are there any PD TELNETs which provide an interface to KERMIT?  The
ideal emulator would provide an INT 14 (e.g. BIOS1) interface to KERMIT. 
Packet driver support would also be very interesting.  Several commercial
packages offer this interface.  Accoring to the reps, both Wollongong and FTP
work with any terminal emulation software that supports INT 14.  

Thanks...

-- Dave

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chapman@acf4.NYU.EDU (Gary W. Chapman) (06/06/90)

From a recent posting in comp.windows.x answering 40+ commonly-answered
questions about X.


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17) How can I get an X server on a PC?

	Locus Computing (800-955-6287; CA: 213-670-6500; UK: +44 296 89911) has 
a server called PC-Xsight which also appears in Acer's X terminal.

	HP (800-752-0900) has the "HP Accelerated X Window Display Server"
(HP AXDS/PC; HP part D2300B) which will run on any AT-class DOS machine with 
640KB, MSDOS 3.1 or higher, and the HP Intelligent Graphics Controller 10 card,
to which the X11R3-based server is downloaded (avoiding performance-limitations
from PC RAM-size and processor speed). [from John Kempff (kempff@hppad.hp.com),
3/90]

	Graphic Software Systems (GSS) (503-641-2200) makes PC-Xview, an 
MSDOS-based X server which interfaces with PC/TCP Plus networking software from
FTP Software and Excelan's LAN WorkPlace for DOS.  The server works with 
(a) 286, 386, 486 (b) EGA, VGA, DGIS displays. (c) DOS 3.2 and above
(d) Microsoft, Logitech, Mouse Systems Mice (e) 640k memory up to 16 MB memory
[the PC-Xview/16 is available for PCs with extended memory].

	VisionWare's XVision is a Microsoft Windows-based X server which allows
an IBM-compatible PC or PS/2 to display X clients running on a networked 
computer at the same time as local DOS programs. VisionWare is at 612-377-3627 
or vision@vware.mn.org (UK: +44 532 788858 and vware@vision.uucp).
	
	Integrated Inference Machines (714-978-6201 or -6776) is shipping 
X11/AT, an X server that runs under MS-windows. The server converts an IBM-AT 
into an X terminal which can simultaneously run MS-DOS and Microsoft Windows 
applications.  

	IBM is rumored to offer a product; part #5709-029.

	Hummingbird Communications (Canada 416-470-1203) produces the 
HCL-eXceed and HCL-eXceed Plus for EGA, VGA, and VGA+ controllers. 

	Information Network Solutions also offers a product called HCL-eXceed
for the *86. The fax is 02-4122079 inside Australia, 612-4122079 from overseas.

	PC DECwindows a.k.a. the PC DECwindows Display Facility is an MS-DOS 
application that turns your PC into an X11R3 terminal. It supports DECnet.
Available from DEC. [Dennis Giokas (giokas@mosaic.enet.dec.com), 3/90]

	AGE (619-565-7373) offers the XoftWare TIGA.

	Bell Technologies (Fremont, CA: 415-659-9097)

	Intelligent Decisions, Inc. (Sunnyvale, CA: 408-734-3730)

	Pericom's TeemTalk-X for IBM clones allows toggling between X and DOS. 
Information: +44 (0908) 560022.	[5/90]

rhoward@msd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard) (06/06/90)

In article <16740013@acf4.NYU.EDU> chapman@acf4.NYU.EDU (Gary W. Chapman) writes:
>From a recent posting in comp.windows.x answering 40+ commonly-answered
>questions about X.


>--------------------------------------------------
>17) How can I get an X server on a PC?
:
:
>	Graphic Software Systems (GSS) (503-641-2200) makes PC-Xview, an 
>MSDOS-based X server which interfaces with PC/TCP Plus networking software from
>FTP Software and Excelan's LAN WorkPlace for DOS.  The server works with 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
...don't forget Sun's PC-NFS.

>(a) 286, 386, 486 (b) EGA, VGA, DGIS displays. (c) DOS 3.2 and above
>(d) Microsoft, Logitech, Mouse Systems Mice (e) 640k memory up to 16 MB memory
>[the PC-Xview/16 is available for PCs with extended memory].

Robert

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randy@chinet.chi.il.us (Randy Suess) (06/07/90)

In article <16740013@acf4.NYU.EDU> chapman@acf4.NYU.EDU (Gary W. Chapman) writes:
>From a recent posting in comp.windows.x answering 40+ commonly-answered
>questions about X.
>--------------------------------------------------
>17) How can I get an X server on a PC?
>
>	VisionWare's XVision is a Microsoft Windows-based X server which allows
>an IBM-compatible PC or PS/2 to display X clients running on a networked 
>computer at the same time as local DOS programs. VisionWare is at 612-377-3627 
>or vision@vware.mn.org (UK: +44 532 788858 and vware@vision.uucp).

	I have been using XVision now with FTP networking software
	for a few months now.  Under MS Windows 2.1, it was a
	pretty good server, as long as you had a 386 and 2-4 megs
	memory.  You could use MS Windows as your windows manager,
	with the added benefits that other MS Windows programs
	could be used on your screen.  Used the clipboard for cut
	and paste to things like Excel.  It can also operate in
	full screen mode with the UNIX window manager of your choice.
	However, with MS Windows 3.0, the thing now becomes fantastic.  
	XVision has 3.0 support (calls it "greater than 2.11" on its 
	install menu. It was released before 3.0 was announced).
	Nicest thing about a X server running under MS Windows is
	that you don't have to worry about display support.  Every
	display card known to man is supported under Windows.  If
	you get something like PC Xsight, you have to worry if your
	display is supported.

	-randy
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randy@chinet.chi.il.us

SLVQC@CUNYVM (Salvatore Saieva) (06/07/90)

In article <9006050721.AA18539@cs.utah.edu>, HOISVE@xanadu.cc.utah.edu (David
Hoisve) says:
>
>Two quick questions...
>
>First, a while back, someone posted a very comprehensive list of X Windows
>packages for PCs.  Does anyone have a copy?
>
Check comp.windows.x; I believe someone posts a monthly info
message of frequently asked X questions with answers. That
message contains a listing of X PC packages.

Sal.
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