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MARSHALL@JHUHYG.BITNET (01/11/89)

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Date: 10 January 89, 20:00:42 EST
From: Marshall Albert Bryan     (301) 955-3445       MARSHALL at JHUHYG
      Academic Data Center, User Specialist/Communications Manager
      School of Hygiene and Public Health, Johns Hopkins University
      615 North Wolfe Street,
      Baltimore, Maryland   21205-2179
To:   TN3270-L IBM 3270 Emulation Discussion      TN3270   at TERMINUS.UMD.EDU

Date: 10 January 89, 20:00:42 EST
From: Marshall Albert Bryan     (301) 955-3445       MARSHALL at JHUHYG
To:   TN3270-L IBM 3270 Emulation Discussion List TN3270   at TERMINUS.UMD.EDU
      IBM PC Networking Discussion List           IBM-NETS at UGA
      ARPA TCP-IP Discussion List                 TCP-IP   at SRI-NIC.ARPA
      PC-IP Arpa Discussion List                  PCIP     at UDEL.EDU
      IBM TCP/IP for VM Discussion List           IBMTCP-L at CUNYVM

Re: 3com PCS/TCP-NS and TN3270

Sorry for the multiple posting.

We are begining to use PCS/TCP, a package designed for a 3Com network, and
wanting to use TN3270.  Line mode on an IBM VM/CMS system is fun, but...

Has anyone *actually* combined any of the various TN3270 packages and
this telnet?  Perhaps more properly stated, has someone used a TN3270
and the driver and etc. from this package.

It does not have a TN3270 of it's own.

If so, I'd like to know and if wanted I'll post any results.

                                                       -Marshall

      Academic Data Center, User Specialist/Communications Manager
      School of Hygiene and Public Health, Johns Hopkins University
      615 North Wolfe Street,
      Baltimore, Maryland   21205-2179
Date: 10 January 89, 20:00:42 EST
From: Marshall Albert Bryan     (301) 955-3445       MARSHALL at JHUHYG
To:   TN3270-L IBM 3270 Emulation Discussion List TN3270   at TERMINUS.UMD.EDU
      IBM PC Networking Discussion List           IBM-NETS at UGA
      ARPA TCP-IP Discussion List                 TCP-IP   at SRI-NIC.ARPA
      PC-IP Arpa Discussion List                  PCIP     at UDEL.EDU
      IBM TCP/IP for VM Discussion List           IBMTCP-L at CUNYVM

Re: 3com PCS/TCP-NS and TN3270

Sorry for the multiple posting.

We are begining to use PCS/TCP, a package designed for a 3Com network, and
wanting to use TN3270.  Line mode on an IBM VM/CMS system is fun, but...

Has anyone *actually* combined any of the various TN3270 packages and
this telnet?  Perhaps more properly stated, has someone used a TN3270
and the driver and etc. from this package.

It does not have a TN3270 of it's own.

If so, I'd like to know and if wanted I'll post any results.

                                                       -Marshall

      Academic Data Center, User Specialist/Communications Manager
      School of Hygiene and Public Health, Johns Hopkins University
      615 North Wolfe Street,
      Baltimore, Maryland   21205-2179
Date: 10 January 89, 20:00:42 EST
From: Marshall Albert Bryan     (301) 955-3445       MARSHALL at JHUHYG
To:   TN3270-L IBM 3270 Emulation Discussion List TN3270   at TERMINUS.UMD.EDU
      IBM PC Networking Discussion List           IBM-NETS at UGA
      ARPA TCP-IP Discussion List                 TCP-IP   at SRI-NIC.ARPA
      PC-IP Arpa Discussion List                  PCIP     at UDEL.EDU
      IBM TCP/IP for VM Discussion List           IBMTCP-L at CUNYVM

Re: 3com PCS/TCP-NS and TN3270

Sorry for the multiple posting.

We are begining to use PCS/TCP, a package designed for a 3Com network, and
wanting to use TN3270.  Line mode on an IBM VM/CMS system is fun, but...

Has anyone *actually* combined any of the various TN3270 packages and
this telnet?  Perhaps more properly stated, has someone used a TN3270
and the driver and etc. from this package.

It does not have a TN3270 of it's own.

If so, I'd like to know and if wanted I'll post any results.

                                                       -Marshall

      Academic Data Center, User Specialist/Communications Manager
      School of Hygiene and Public Health, Johns Hopkins University
      615 North Wolfe Street,
      Baltimore, Maryland   21205-2179

MARSHALL@JHUHYG.BITNET (05/03/89)

Date: 2 May 89, 22:31:07 EDT
From: Marshall Albert Bryan     (301) 955-3445       MARSHALL at JHUHYG
To:   PC-IP Arpa Discussion List                     PCIP     at UDEL.EDU

Subject:  SMTP to 3Com Lans

The subject of Novell to SMTP has come up recently.  What about SMTP <>3Com?

I am aware of the Sun 386 Promulgate Mail Gateway, but the $30,000 or so
needed is a bit much for no FAX or Novell connectivity.  I would pay that
for those something that did all three.  As far as additional Mail
package interfaces, WordPerfect Office would be nice...  But then as you
can tell I'm a dreamer.

I guess what I would like is a Communications Server that did just that...

Thanks for any input if you've got it.

     -Marshall
      Academic Data Center, User Specialist/Communications Manager
      School of Hygiene and Public Health, Johns Hopkins University
      615 North Wolfe Street,
      Baltimore, Maryland   21205-2179    FAX (301) 955-1752

UCC2LAA@NAUVM.BITNET (08/08/90)

Date:         Tue, 07 Aug 90 13:19:26 MST
From:         Lou Arminio <UCC2LAA@NAUVM>
Subject:      Info on David and Cabletron E-net Cards
To:           PCIP <pcip@udel.edu>

Can someone tell me about the Ethernet cards sold by David Systems
and Cabletron?  Both vendors just gave us a few Ethernet/10Base-T
cards to try, but we were told we would have to acquire our own
drivers if we wanted to play with TCP/IP.  Are there Clarkson
drivers for these cards?  Are they supported by FTP Software's
PC/IP?  Has anyone had experience with the cards?  Any information
will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Lou Arminio                   |
Academic Computing Specialist | Bitnet: UCC2LAA@NAUVM.BITNET
Northern Arizona University   | Internet: laa@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Flagstaff, Arizona            |

nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Russ Nelson) (08/08/90)

In article <9008071625.aa08933@louie.udel.edu> UCC2LAA@NAUVM.BITNET writes:

   Can someone tell me about the Ethernet cards sold by David Systems
   and Cabletron?  Both vendors just gave us a few Ethernet/10Base-T
   cards to try, but we were told we would have to acquire our own
   drivers if we wanted to play with TCP/IP.  Are there Clarkson
   drivers for these cards?

Cabletron has their own packet driver for their cards.  I don't know about
David Systems.  If their board is compatible with Novell's, then either the
NE1000 or NE2000 drivers should work.  Otherwise you're out of luck.

--
--russ (nelson@clutx [.bitnet | .clarkson.edu])  Russ.Nelson@$315.268.6667
We won the cold war.  The Russians spent trillions defending their stuff,
then they found that they didn't have any stuff.  Will we avoid the same trap?

UCC2LAA@NAUVM.BITNET (08/08/90)

Date:         Wed, 08 Aug 90 07:58:01 MST
From:         Lou Arminio <UCC2LAA@NAUVM>
Subject:      RE: Drivers for Cabletron Cards
To:           PCIP <pcip@udel.edu>

My apologies for making Cabletron look bad regarding drivers.  The
truth is, we haven't received our cards from them yet, so I didn't
know for sure that I wouldn't have them.  We do have the David
Systems cards in though, and the Western Region Representative told
us we would need to acquire our own TCP/IP drivers for these.  I
didn't want to wait until the Cabletron cards came in to find out
whether we would need drivers for these too, so I inquired about
both cards.  BTW: All our preliminary dealings with Cabletron
have shown the company to be very responsive to our needs.

It looks like I got the answer I needed on the Cabletron cards.
Now how about those David System cards?

Thanks for all your responses.

Lou Arminio                   |
Academic Computing Specialist | Bitnet: UCC2LAA@NAUVM.BITNET
Northern Arizona University   | Internet: laa@naucse.cse.nau.edu
Flagstaff, Arizona            |

robel2@MYTHOS.UCS.INDIANA.EDU (Allen Robel) (08/09/90)

>Can someone tell me about the Ethernet cards sold by David Systems
>and Cabletron?  Both vendors just gave us a few Ethernet/10Base-T
>cards to try, but we were told we would have to acquire our own
>drivers if we wanted to play with TCP/IP.  Are there Clarkson
>drivers for these cards?  Are they supported by FTP Software's
>PC/IP?  Has anyone had experience with the cards?  Any information

I have tried Cabletron's cards and they worked just fine for me
(packet drivers and all).  My concern with these is that the
source code is not available for their driver which means that
the folks at Clarkson and elsewhere cannot add new features as
needed (e.g. Windows 3.0 support, support for Blue Book and 802.3
packets, etc.)

DAVID Systems has told me that they will have a driver soon.  I
talked with our sales rep and mentioned that they could probably
get one written for the cost of a couple cards (sent to 

Clarkson's Russ Nelson).  They were *real* receptive to this
and I would expect Russ to be hearing from them soon (hope that's
OK with you Russ!!)

regards,

Allen Robel                               robel2@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu 

University Computing Services             ROBELR@IUJADE.BITNET 

Network Research & Planning               voice: (812)855-7171
Indiana University                        FAX:   (812)855-8299

nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Russ Nelson) (08/09/90)

In article <9008082048.aa21592@louie.udel.edu> robel2@MYTHOS.UCS.INDIANA.EDU (Allen Robel) writes:

   I have tried Cabletron's cards and they worked just fine for me
   (packet drivers and all).  My concern with these is that the
   source code is not available for their driver ...

They have chosen to roll their own packet drivers.  On the other hand,
their packet drivers are supported, whereas the Clarkson collection of
drivers are unsupported.

   DAVID Systems has told me that they will have a driver soon.  I
   talked with our sales rep and mentioned that they could probably
   get one written for the cost of a couple cards (sent to 
   Clarkson's Russ Nelson).  They were *real* receptive to this
   and I would expect Russ to be hearing from them soon (hope that's
   OK with you Russ!!)

Yes, that's OK with me.  In fact, please tell *every* manufacturer of
Ethernet cards that they can get a driver written "just" by donating
the hardware to Clarkson (and get a tax write-off, too).

If packet drivers are important to you, then you need to let the hardware
manufacturers know about them.  Many are totally ignorant about them.

--
--russ (nelson@clutx [.bitnet | .clarkson.edu])  Russ.Nelson@$315.268.6667
We won the cold war.  The Russians spent trillions defending their stuff,
then they found that they didn't have any stuff.  Will we avoid the same trap?

fks@VAX.FTP.COM (Frances Selkirk) (08/09/90)

My impression was that Cabletron was supporting their packet drivers themselves,
and would upgrade their packet drivers themsleves. There's no need for Russ
to support every packet driver in the world!


Frances Kirk Selkirk		 info@ftp.com	           (617) 246-0900
FTP Software, Inc.		 26 Princess Street, Wakefield, MA  01880

UCC2LAA@NAUVM.BITNET (09/29/90)

I'm reposting this because I think the first copy got lost.

  Date:         Fri, 28 Sep 90 12:11:19 MST
  From:         Lou Arminio <UCC2LAA@NAUVM>
  Subject:      POP2 server for VMS
  To:           pcip@udel.edu

  I want our VAX to be a mail relay for people using PC/TCP who want to
  send mail between PCs.  I believe what I need is in order to accomplish
  this is a host system running a POP2 server.  Is this correct?

  If so, does anyone know of a POP2 server for VMS?  If not, where can
  I find one for Unix?

  Thanks in advance,

  Lou Arminio
  Northern Arizona University