SCEF0003@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU ("James N. Petersen") (11/14/90)
In the pull-out article on DesqView/X in the IBM special issue of BYTE it says that DesqView/X will work over Ethernet connections with FTP Software. Are they using this in a generic sense, or are they actually saying that it will work only with PC/TCP from FTP Software, Inc. Anyone with insight?
david@WUBIOS.WUSTL.EDU ("David J. Camp") (11/14/90)
In Reply to this Note From: <James N. Petersen> > >In the pull-out article on DesqView/X in the IBM special issue of BYTE >it says that DesqView/X will work over Ethernet connections with >FTP Software. Are they using this in a generic sense, or are they actually >saying that it will work only with PC/TCP from FTP Software, Inc. Anyone >with insight? > Perhaps they mean it will work with the Packet Driver standard originally defined by FTP Inc. It is a very popular interface for networking software, and many drivers are available free for certain Ethernet cards. You can get these drivers from sun.soe.clarkson.edu via anonymous ftp. It is possible you need the entire proprietary package from FTP Inc, but I doubt it. I hear that their stuff is very good. -David- david@wubios.wustl.edu ^ Mr. David J. Camp david%wubios@wugate.wustl.edu < * > +1 314 382 0584 ...!uunet!wugate!wubios!david v "God loves material things."
medici@dorm.rutgers.edu (Mark Medici) (11/14/90)
SCEF0003@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU ("James N. Petersen") writes: | In the pull-out article on DesqView/X in the IBM special issue of BYTE | it says that DesqView/X will work over Ethernet connections with | FTP Software. Are they using this in a generic sense, or are they actually | saying that it will work only with PC/TCP from FTP Software, Inc. Anyone | with insight? I haven't seen DesqView/X yet. However, from looking at competing products, it will probably require FTP Software's PC-TCP. Why not call QuarterDeck and find out for sure. Let us know if you do. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Medici/SysProg3 * Rutgers University/CCIS * medici@elbereth.rutgers.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
jbvb@FTP.COM ("James B. Van Bokkelen") (11/14/90)
In the pull-out article on DesqView/X in the IBM special issue of BYTE
it says that DesqView/X will work over Ethernet connections with
FTP Software. Are they using this in a generic sense, or are they
actually saying that it will work only with PC/TCP from FTP Software, Inc.
I know they were working with PC/TCP, but I'm not 100% certain that
they mean "PC/TCP" instead of "one of several DOS TCP/IPs". To be sure,
you should ask Quarterdeck. Since we support more than just Ethernet, and
in such a way that nothing but the available bandwidth should matter to
DesqView/X, there is some evidence that the article was incomplete, if
not a little garbled...
James B. VanBokkelen 26 Princess St., Wakefield, MA 01880
FTP Software Inc. voice: (617) 246-0900 fax: (617) 246-0901fks@FTP.COM (Frances Selkirk) (11/15/90)
Desqview/X runs over our PC/TCP kernel. I can't tell you any more than that, because we haven't got a copy, yet. It isn't on our third party software list, because we haven't tested it. Hopefully, we will get to test it ourselves, soon. Frances Kirk Selkirk info@ftp.com (617) 246-0900 FTP Software, Inc. 26 Princess Street, Wakefield, MA 01880
SCEF0003@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU ("James N. Petersen") (11/15/90)
Well, since the people here on the net did not seem certain, I called Quarterdeck and talked to the people in their technical support department. It seems that initially at least, DesqView/X will work only with PC/TCP from FTP Software. Their hope is to add other vendors software as DesqView/X matures. Hope this is helpful.
pasquale@sgl (Pasquale Leone) (11/17/90)
In article <9011131403.aa12146@louie.udel.edu> SCEF0003@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU ("James N. Petersen") writes: >In the pull-out article on DesqView/X in the IBM special issue of BYTE >it says that DesqView/X will work over Ethernet connections with >FTP Software. Are they using this in a generic sense, or are they actually >saying that it will work only with PC/TCP from FTP Software, Inc. Anyone >with insight? My understanding from carefully reading the insert is that DesqView/X does NOT use any tcp/ip product directly. What it needs is a small driver that provides the interface to a third party network driver such as the tcp/ip that is made by FTP inc. Look at page 29 of the insert, section 6.3 " The Network Software Product". It is also states that a driver (Network Software Product) will be available for Novell networks. My question is, can the company that provides the network software also provide us with the interface (Network Software Product) to DesqView/X? When I buy DesqView/X I would like to use it over my BW-NFS network. Why isn't there a DesqView newsgroup? pasquale@sgl.ists.ca
PIRARD%vm1.ulg.ac.be@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Andr'e PIRARD) (11/21/90)
On Wed, 14 Nov 90 11:11:02 -0500 Frances Selkirk said: >Desqview/X runs over our PC/TCP kernel. I can't tell you any more than >that, because we haven't got a copy, yet. It isn't on our third party >software list, because we haven't tested it. Hopefully, we will get to >test it ourselves, soon. (The kernel is the TCP driver.) It seems rational indeed that they use an (existing) API to open X connections. In fact, they say DESQview/X not only provides an X server, but also an API for multitasked DOS X applications to display locally or remote. And that a "plain" DOS application output can be converted to X and display on a remote terminal (but too slow for bitmaps). Multi user DOS in fact... What I am very anxious to know is the way they do provide multi access to TCP. Does the TCP multiplexing inside DESQview occur at the X API, and DESQview itself would be the only user of the TCP API (excluding its use by other TCP/IP applications, very sad). Or does the multiplexing occur at the TCP API level (and the X API uses that multiplexing on behalf of its callers)? The latest would mean that we would finally have got true TCP/IP under DOS, I mean usable by multiple applications concurrently. I find this even more important than the announced X capabilities. Andr'e PIRARD SEGI, Univ. de Li`ege B26 - Sart Tilman B-4000 Li`ege 1 (Belgium) pirard@vm1.ulg.ac.be or PIRARD%BLIULG11.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU