[comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc] Novice 10BaseT questions.

cnolan@vax1.tcd.ie (11/15/90)

Hi, 
We're considering going to 10BaseT to connect up one of our buildings that is
already wired for RS-232.  From what I've seen this would seem to be the way to
go.

Could anyone just fill me in on the specs for 10BaseT, ie max cable lenght,
type of cable, etc.  Should the existing wiring be suitable?

Also can anyone advise on a suitable hub/concentrator with 10Base2 in, multiple
10BaseT out.  What are the favourite cards for use in PCs?  We currently use
D-Link's DE 100.  

Thanks in advance ...
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amirza@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (anmar mirza) (11/19/90)

We have recently started installing 10baseT to replace our UB ethernet 
equipment.
The standard length for ethernet transmission over tp wire is 100 meters
(328 feet).
Using rg8 you can go 500 meters(1640 feet).
Using rg58 you can go 185 meters (573 feet).
This is according to the specs published.
We experienced some troubles using teflon plenum tp wire due to the 
change in capacitance in the wire, this reduced the maximum tp distance
to around 180 feet. It will not work on non tp phone(or rs232) wire.
It will work through 4 wire tp data circuits.

All in all, I am not impressed by the David Systems that we have purchased,
our Ungermannn Bass equipment was more flexible and has  better management
(once the bugs were worked out, we were a beta test site) software, but
David Systems promises more in the near future.


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robel2@MYTHOS.UCS.INDIANA.EDU (Allen Robel) (12/06/90)

>All in all, I am not impressed by the David Systems that we have 

>purchased, our Ungermannn Bass equipment was more flexible and has  

>better management (once the bugs were worked out, we were a beta 

>test site) software, but David Systems promises more in the near 

>future.

As someone who has been working directly with DAVID System's 

network management, I would like to give my impressions of their
management capabilities.  DAVID, like many other hub vendors, has 

implemented SNMP based management in their hubs.  I have been
using the new Nyser code to query the DAVID MIB and have found
no problems with either their MIB I implementation or their
vendor-specific MIB.  Their specific MIB includes a very rich set
of port-level, module-level and chassis-level information and 

control (through the SNMP SET mechanism).  This information
includes things that we could never get with our UB hubs like
out of spec frequencies, late collisions, normal collisions, 

jabbers, start frame delimiter errors, frame check, runts, 

giants, etc.  The hubs also send traps reliably and appropriately 

and offers the ability to send its traps to up to 10 other hosts.

Trap types include:

1) Authentication
2) Cold Start
3) Module Failure
4) Module Recovery
5) Module Power Supply Failure
6) Port Partition/Partitioned
7) Port Jabbering

I've implemented a shell script to query the hubs and send mail
to selected personnel should a hub respond with a value that is 

out of an acceptable range for a variable.  I never would have been 

able to do this using the proprietary management that UB offered.  

UB has announced SNMP capability and I'm sure that they will make 

good on this so I'm not knocking UB; I'm simply defending DAVID 

Systems as I feel that their management capabilities and their
product are much better than what was implied by Mr. Mirza.

regards,

Allen Robel                            robel2@mythos.ucs.indiana.edu 

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