andchan@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Andrew Chan) (04/17/91)
I hear that with some software from FTP it can be done, but what about if I cannot afford buying a copy? Is there any way at all that MS-kermit can utilize the ethernet? I see that kermit can set my port to a wide variety of things, including Novell, will IPXPKT.COM help in this case? I am asking for the purpose of "knowing more" :-) We usually use NCSA Telnet or CUTCP for this purpose...
mark@TELESYS.NCSC.NAVY.MIL ("Mark L. Williams") (04/17/91)
Andrew Chan writes... >I hear that with some software from FTP it can be done, but what about >if I cannot afford buying a copy? > >Is there any way at all that MS-kermit can utilize the ethernet? >I see that kermit can set my port to a wide variety of things, including >Novell, will IPXPKT.COM help in this case? > >I am asking for the purpose of "knowing more" :-) We usually >use NCSA Telnet or CUTCP for this purpose... We run 3+Open TCP/IP with DPA on PCs at this time. This package provides an FTP client, a set of Network Maintenance Facilities (arp, ping, and netstat), and a terminal emulator (i.e., telnet with a front end). The front end uses the Bridge Application Program Interface (BAPI) to communicate with the telnet module. BAPI and telnet are loaded as tsrs. Any communications program that can interface with BAPI can be used as a front end. The 3Com product is called VT; the manual ((c) 3Com Corp 1989 and the source of the specifics in this message) provides info for using other terminal emulators, like Reflection, Softerm, and SmarTerm. You can use anything else that will, in general, support interrupt-14 data passing. MS-kermit will do that, so it can be used as well. Some observations: there are very few products in the front-end category that we've found that really meet our needs. VT is very quick but its VT100 emulation is imperfect and its operation is cumbersome in some cases. Kermit is the same-old-same-old but SLOW (effective apparent rate maybe 1200-2400 baud). Most terminal emulators that try sending/receiving just one byte (or so) at a time just don't perform adequately, especially if your users use applications that try to paint full screens often. We are limping along with VT and Kermit and a contractor-supplied product that fills in some VT emulation and speed holes, but we're looking hard for something else with the performance characteristics we would really like. Reflections seems like a good candidate in preliminary tests. BTW, we are also considering changing TCP/IP packages. Those of you familiar with FTP Software's products will recognize that the array of products included in the 3Com package is somewhat limited by comparison. Mark L. Williams Head, Telecommunications Branch Code 7630 Naval Coastal Systems Center Panama City, FL 32407-5000 (904)235-5153 (mark@telesys.ncsc.navy.mil)
jbvb@FTP.COM ("James B. Van Bokkelen") (04/17/91)
I hear that with some software from FTP it can be done, but what about
if I cannot afford buying a copy?
Anything that supports redirection of the PC's BIOS serial communication
interrupt (14h) will do this. Commercial products from Beame & Whiteside,
FTP Software, 3Com, Wollongong and perhaps now Sun do it. Of the non-
commercial packages, I'm sure the academic-institutions-only package
from the University of Maryland will do it, but I'm not sure about others.
James B. VanBokkelen 26 Princess St., Wakefield, MA 01880
FTP Software Inc. voice: (617) 246-0900 fax: (617) 246-0901erick@sunee.waterloo.edu (Erick Engelke) (04/17/91)
In article <1991Apr16.233112.7422@ccu.umanitoba.ca> (Andrew Chan) writes: >I hear that with some software from FTP it can be done, but what about >if I cannot afford buying a copy? > >Is there any way at all that MS-kermit can utilize the ethernet? There is a free program called TCPPORT which does exactly as you ask, its part of the Waterloo TCP package. Anonymous ftp to 129.97.128.196 and pick up pub/wattcp/beta/apps.arc. (The version in pub/wattcp/apps.arc does not convert carriage returns to linefeeds, so you would have to type ^J rather than just hitting return). Programs such as NCSA or CUTCP TELNET will be much faster since the COM port adds a *lot* of software overhead for each single character. If you have trouble getting MS-KERMIT to work over TCPPORT, send me E-mail. Erick -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Erick Engelke Watstar Computer Network Watstar Network Guy University of Waterloo Erick@Development.Watstar.UWaterloo.ca (519) 885-1211 Ext. 2965
keith@ca.excelan.com (Keith Brown) (04/19/91)
The News Manager) Nntp-Posting-Host: ca Reply-To: keith@ca.excelan.com (Keith Brown) Organization: Novell, Inc. San Jose, California References: <9104171435.AA26846@ftp.com> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1991 02:52:11 GMT In article <9104171435.AA26846@ftp.com> jbvb@ftp.com writes: >Anything that supports redirection of the PC's BIOS serial communication >interrupt (14h) will do this. Commercial products from Beame & Whiteside, >FTP Software, 3Com, Wollongong and perhaps now Sun do it. Add us to that list too :-) The Novell LAN WorkPlace for DOS contains an int 14h redirector supporting BAPI, EtherTerm, Int14, Extended Int14 and the NETCI LAN communication interface. It used to support NASI on int 6Bh but that got pulled recently (I don't think anyone needed NASI over TELNET, correct me if I'm wrong!). We call ours "TELAPI" and it contains our own programming extensions for connection setup and tear down as well as programmatic manipulation of things like TELNET option negotiations across a circuit. If someone will tell me the best places to find the various freely distributable INT 14 using software, I'll try and find a dull Monday evening when nothing much is happening to check 'em all out (as long as theres not too many of course :-). Keith - Keith Brown Phone: (408) 473 8308 Novell San Jose Development Centre Fax: (408) 433 0775 2180 Fortune Dr, San Jose, California 95131 Net: keith@novell.COM