[net.news.group] nay to net.gay

lab@qubix.UUCP (Larry Bickford) (09/19/83)

(There, that should be plenty of ice...)
Sorry to pop Stephen Dyer's bubble, but I seriously doubt that "net.gay"
will be anything like net.singles, which has really gone off its course
many times (a lot of stuff that perhaps should have been in net.social).
I have seen too much of the "sex-is-everything" attitude in net.singles
to adopt a "so what?" attitude.

Further, the idea that we should be able to reasonably discuss things in an
"adult" environment is baloney. There are a LOT of teen-agers on the net,
whose values may not yet be fully set, for whom such a newsgroup may not
be appropriate. (Get the ice ready.) Yes, I believe that homosexuality (see
next paragraph) is psychological not physical, because of the many who have
changed from one to the other without surgery or such. And until *that*
issue is addressed, you've got a group that isn't facing reality.

BTW, would you mind choosing another word and giving "gay" back to the
English language? It used to be one of the nicest words in the language
until some people tried to take over a California county. I still call
homosexuality for what it is, but the way things are going, future
generations will be a century off when they hear about the Gay Nineties.

Moving my terminal downstairs in my igloo,
Larry Bickford, ihnp4!decwrl!qubix!lab

jrc@ritcv.UUCP (James R Carbin) (09/22/83)

>   ...Yes, I believe that homosexuality (see next paragraph) is psychological
>   not physical, because of the many who have changed from one to the other
>   without surgery or such.
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Come on Larry!  I thought "facts" are to be supported by references - is this
your opinion?  Any how many is "many?"  What percentage?  And were they
individuals who had one or more homosexual experiences or were they really
homosexuals?  And pray tell what surgery would you suggest - brain surgery?
I'm not aware of any surgical procedures - please enlighten me.

Excuse the flame, but I couldn't let your beliefs (which you have every right
to express) be pseudo-supported (how's that for a word?) with the assertion
that many have changed as if it were documented fact.  If a study to that
effect has been accomplished, I'll be happy to attempt to somehow eat this
posting.

as ever,

j.r.

braddy@houxl.UUCP (09/23/83)

Who are you to say what should or should not be in the English language?

Language is a community project:
Most people use gay to mean (male) homosexual, so it's part of the language.
Since you apparently don't like the word gay, just don't use it.
If enough people share your opinion and communicate that way,
then by definition, English will have changed,
as living languages do, and that's that.

Your opinion is only that, Larry; when you present it as fact,
and as if you could speak for all of us who speak English,
you expose your ignorance and narrow mind.

            David Braddy
            houxl!braddy