chuq@plaid.Sun.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (11/25/87)
HYPER-HACKERS Digest Vol. 1 #6 Subjects: doFKEY reposting Hypertext'87 Workshop mini trip report Fast searching in Hypercard ----------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 87 08:40:40 PST From: PUGH@NMFECC.ARPA Subject: doFKEY reposting I forgot to copy the doFKEY XCMD from my Home stack into the doFKEY stack I posted, which was a pretty brain damaged thing to do. Here is the complete doFKEY stack and my apologies to all involved. This XCMD will call FKEYs of any number, so fill up on them. 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"Everybody" were there (e.g. Ted Nelson, Doug Engelbart, Andy van Dam etc.) except Bill Atkinson. HyperCard was presented and was the focus of considerable interest during the demo periods (including a nice system for accessing a videodisk with Landsat pictures). Most people agreed however, that HC is not a hyperTEXT system because of its poor text handling. It is "hypergraphics". A large number of other hypertext and hypermedia systems were presented together with papers on topics such as hyper-fiction, multi-user use, educational use of hypertext, real-world use (the Symbolics Document Examiner), etc. The proceedings from this workshop are highly recommended for anybody with a more principled interest in hypertext. The growth in interest in hypertext has been tremendous (partly because of HC, and partly because of Guide etc.). When this workshop was planned about a year ago, the organizers were afraid that they would not be able to get a sufficiently large number of people together. And it turned out that they could have gotten 500 people (but since it was an invitational workshop with limited space, only 180 people actually were there). ----------------------------------- Date: Tue 24 Nov 87 15:40:08-CST From: John Lawler <J.AITJLAW@CHIP.UChicago> Subject: Fast searching in Hypercard I'm trying to set up a library system using Hypercard, and I'm hoping someone can help me out on two things. 1) This library is supposed to be used to contain all the articles and other references our group needs in its research, and we'd like to be able to do a search for, say, the phrase "machine learning" and have a scrolling list of ALL the articles that have that phrase in its title pop up. The problem is that I cannot come up with a FAST (this stack will eventually have many hundreds of card in it) routine to find and list all the hits for that search. Has anyone figured out some way to do this, either in Hypertalk or by using an XCMD? 2) Assuming I have a scrolling list of hits to my search, I'd like to be able to just point to the title and have that card pop up. I've got Raine Cohen's hypertext routine, but here's my problem: the field that the hits would show up in is too narrow for the entire title to fit in one line, so it wraps around. Fine, except I'd like to disable to wraparound so that each line has only one title. It would sort of be like normal Mac stuff -- if the file name (or here, a title) is too long, it would be go like "Machine learning and its use in ..." Again, I was hoping someone had already figured this out so I won't have to reinvent the wheel. The ... part is really not important, I'd be happy with being able to disable wraparound on the field. *********************************** End of HYPER-HACKERS Digest --- Chuq "Fixed in 4.0" Von Rospach chuq@sun.COM Delphi: CHUQ