[comp.sys.mac.hypercard] Forthcoming HyperCard DA from Symmetry

csaron@garnet.berkeley.edu (Aron Roberts,,2251,,YH20) (01/02/88)

From a recent press release (on CompuServe's new APPHYPER SIG) ...

MESA, AZ, December 21, 1987--Symmetry Corporation, a Macintosh software
developer announced today that it will be releasing HyperDA*, a HyperCard*
desk accessory at the San Francisco MacWorld show in January.
 
HyperDA allows the Macintosh user to open HyperCard stacks and browse
through their contents all while using another application.  HyperDA
understands a subset of the HyperTalk language allowing most stacks
to operate as they do in HyperCard with active buttons and fields.

Selection tools allow the user to copy text or graphics to the clipboard
from a stack which can then be pasted into another application.  A
find command similar to HyperCard's is also provided allowing a stack
to be searched for a particular word.  Other features include a window
mode allowing a stack to appear in a growable, scrollable window which
can be moved anywhere on the screen.
 
HyperDA can be used on any Macintosh with 512K of memory or more. 
This is significant because previously, owners of Macintosh computers
with less than 1MB of memory could not benefit from information available
in HyperCard stacks.

"We expect a lot of interest in HyperDA," said Scott Shwarts, President
of Symmetry.  "Not only does it provide easy access to information
in HyperCard stacks but it opens the market for stackware to the 512K
user," he added.

According to the company, HyperDA will also be made available to other
developers under license for use in on-line documentation and help
systems.
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HyperDA, PictureBase and Acta are trademarks of Symmetry Corporation.
HyperCard, HyperTalk and Macintosh are trademarks of Apple Computer,
Inc.

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Disclaimer:  I have no connection, financial or otherwise, with Symmetry
Corporation.

   Aron Roberts  Tolman Microcomputer Facility     
                 1535 Tolman Hall, University of California
                 Berkeley, CA 94720  (415) 642-2251
                 csaron@garnet.Berkeley.EDU   CSARON@UCBCMSA.BITNET

dlw@hpsmtc1.HP.COM (David Williams) (01/15/88)

After having played with a version of Hyperda, it is of limited value.

1) Visual effects are not supported.
2) Sound effects are not supported.
3) Hyperda supports an extremely limited subset of Hypertalk.
4) It is a neat concept (ie a good Hack), but all it would seem to do
   in my opinion is whet the appetite of a 512k user to upgrade to a 
   plus before it is too late (why spend $59 for a product that has
   less functionality than Hypercard which costs $49?), or to make
   a 1meg +/SE/II user long for more memory to run full hypercard
   under multifinder.
5) The fact that visual/sound effects are not present really dilutes
   much of the pizzazz of what Hypercard is about!
6) What would have been nicer would have been an Xcmd based product that
   enhanced the design of stackware(ie windows for editing scripts 
   rather than a dialog box, and sort of a source code debugger feature
   where you could have a window up that shows the hypertalk code being 
   that is currently executing while a script is  in action (a la
   Lightspeed Pascal).

Save your money for memory upgrades or in the case of 512k users upgrade
to a Mac+ or 512ke with more memory!

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David L. Williams
dlw@hpda
Hewlett Packard, Cupertino Ca
Software Development Technology Laboratory
Distributed Computing Environment Project
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