EUA@PSUVM.BITNET (02/15/88)
I'm looking for information on inexpensive stacks. Has anybody looked at stack
s from BUDGET BYTES P.O. Box 2248 Topeka, KS 66601? How about EDUCOMP's stacks
. Any other sources?
Mel DeYoung
Dept of English
Penn State 863-2910
alibaba@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (73539000) (02/16/88)
Don't know much about Budget Bytes, but Educomp blatently rips off stupid Macintosh owners. They have the nerve to charge $10 for a disk of public domain and shareware type software. They also claim to be a user group. They are a FOR-PROFIT institution, and they provide ALMOST NO user group support features. For stacks, I would recommend that you contact The Berkeley MAcintosh User Group at (415)549-BMUG for info, or The Boston Computer Society at (617)625-7080 for info. These are the two largest user groups in the Macintosh community, and the BCS is the largest in the world, unless the Soviet Ministry of Education counts. These groups charge nominal supply and materials/shipping charges of $3-$5 per disk. (Can't recall the BMUG price specifically, but BCS is $4 for one 800K disk chock full of stuff, I know I used to layout/deisgn the contents of BCS disks. :-) ) Summary: Find a REAL user group that cares! Special Edition Disclaimer: Non-Profit user groups cannot lobby for support of any sort. Therefore I am forced to say that neither group is responsible for what I say, although deep down inside, they all agree with me. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Alexander M. Rosenberg ~ INTERNET: alibaba@ucscb.ucsc.edu ~ Yoyodyne ~ ~ Crown College, UCSC ~ UUCP:...!ucbvax!ucscc!ucscb!alibaba~ Propulsion ~ ~ Santa Cruz, CA 95064 ~ BITNET:alibaba%ucscb@ucscc.BITNET ~ Systems, Inc~ ~ (408) 426-8869 ~ Disclaimer: Nobody is my employer ~ :-) ~ ~ ~ so nobody cares what I say. ~ ~
preese@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (Phil Reese) (02/16/88)
In article <33645EUA@PSUVM> EUA@PSUVM.BITNET writes: >I'm looking for information on inexpensive stacks. Has anybody looked at stack >s from BUDGET BYTES P.O. Box 2248 Topeka, KS 66601? How about EDUCOMP's stacks >. Any other sources? > >Mel DeYoung >Dept of English Both of these places are in the business of SELLING disks with PD and Shareware software on them. While there is nothing wrong with this there are other sources for these stacks and programs. Most of the stack and PD/Shareware material is first posted to Compuserv or Genie or any of several other national networks. Anyone could get an account and download these materials for the cost of connect/download time (a very considerable sum for 800k worth of information). A good alternative is a local User's Group. There are many of these in the bigger and not so big cities. Also around college campuses. Most groups have a software library often containing the same programs that are available from the two sources mentioned. The costs for these disks are usually lower than the national sources and you have someone local to call when the program doesn't work or doesn't do exactly what you want it to do. Finally, there are two other alternatives. There are two large, national Mac Users Groups, BMUG and BCS. One on each coast. These groups often have the most and newest programs of any group. Each will sell any of their PD/Shareware disks for between $3-$4 per disk, usually including shipping and handling! I'm on the west coast so I know about BMUG at 415-549-BMUG. I also know that they have 25+ disks of stacks in addition to their main library of 75+ disks. They also have a killer newsletter that comes out twice a year and is usually 300+ pages in length. Hope this helps you. Phil Reese SESAME Group School of Ed, UC Berkeley preese@garnet.berkeley.edu {decvax,dual,hplabs,sdcsvax,ulysses}!ucbvax!garnet!preese (And sometimes BMUG volunteer.)
keeshu@nikhefk.UUCP (Kees Huyser) (02/17/88)
In article <1980@saturn.ucsc.edu> alibaba@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Alexander M. Rosenberg) writes: [some stuff deleted] #Computer Society at (617)625-7080 for info. These are the two largest #user groups in the Macintosh community, and the BCS is the largest in the #world, unless the Soviet Ministry of Education counts. These groups charge The largest computer user group in the world is the HCC (Hobby Computer Club) of the Netherlands, 60.000+ members. I very much doubt the Soviet MoE has that many computers... -- Kees | UUCP : keeshu@nikhefk.uucp or {[wherever]!uunet}!mcvax!nikhefk!keeshu | BITNET : keeshu@hasara5.bitnet | FIDO : Kees Huyser @ 2:508/15 (Opus_MacSaga) | SNAIL : Kees Huyser, NIKHEF-K, PO Box 4395, 1009 AJ Amsterdam, Netherlands +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
gat@asr2.UUCP (Glen A. Taylor) (02/18/88)
In article <33645EUA@PSUVM> EUA@PSUVM.BITNET writes: >I'm looking for information on inexpensive stacks. Has anybody looked at stack >s from BUDGET BYTES P.O. Box 2248 Topeka, KS 66601? How about EDUCOMP's stacks >. Any other sources? > My son bought the BUDGET BYTES four disk pack of stacks. I only skimmed them but it seems you get what you pay for, i.e. at approx. $5 per disk you shouldn't expect much. I saw no stacks that appeared really useful except for some hypercard utility stacks. The real benefit is for ideas if you plan to do some hyperhacking and haven't progressed very far yet. Glen A. Taylor AT&T Bell Labs Columbus, OH (614) 560-5305 cbosgd!asr2!gat