werner@utastro.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) (02/22/88)
Yesterday, I found a brand-new book in the HAYDEN MACINTOSH LIBRARY Books series titled: HYPERTALK Programming, by Dan Schafer (includes Version 1.1; includes HyperTalk Language Poster) It is Copyright 1988, softcover, over 500 pages, 26 chapters with a readable layout - I haven't read enough of it yet to have an opinion on the contents yet. I did not read the Goodman book, and, therefore, won't be able to compare them. someone else may have an opinion, though, and I'd be interested to hear it. if you have questions regarding the book that I can look up, please send me Email and I'll try to answer. Disclaimers: I have no connections with anyone related to the book. prefered address: werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu werner%rascal@im4u.utexas.edu
edmoy@violet.berkeley.edu (02/23/88)
In article <2463@utastro.UUCP> werner@utastro.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) writes: >Yesterday, I found a brand-new book in the HAYDEN MACINTOSH LIBRARY Books >series titled: > > HYPERTALK Programming, by Dan Schafer > (includes Version 1.1; includes HyperTalk Language Poster) > >It is Copyright 1988, softcover, over 500 pages, 26 chapters with a >readable layout - I haven't read enough of it yet to have an opinion >on the contents yet. I did not read the Goodman book, and, therefore, >won't be able to compare them. someone else may have an opinion, though, >and I'd be interested to hear it. I have both Goodman's and Schafer's books. I think I like Schafer's better in most ways, as it is more to the point and better for people who are familiar with programming already. I like the alphabetized list of all keywords that is in the back of Schafer's book. Still, there never seems to be enough information in any book to answer every question I have, not even the stuff from Apple. For instance, I had to experiment myself to find out that when you make a new card, the openCard message comes before the newCard message (seems kind of backwards to me). Edward Moy Workstation Software Support Group University of California Berkeley, CA 94720 edmoy@violet.Berkeley.EDU ucbvax!violet!edmoy (Usual disclaimer about them and me.)
chuq@plaid.Sun.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (02/23/88)
>>Yesterday, I found a brand-new book in the HAYDEN MACINTOSH LIBRARY Books >>series titled: >> >> HYPERTALK Programming, by Dan Schafer >> (includes Version 1.1; includes HyperTalk Language Poster) >I have both Goodman's and Schafer's books. I think I like Schafer's better >in most ways, as it is more to the point and better for people who are >familiar with programming already. I like the alphabetized list of all >keywords that is in the back of Schafer's book. I've just reviewed this for Macintosh Horizons magazine. I like Schafer's book, and I think it complement's the Goodman book. Goodman's book is more the reference, Schafer is closer to a tutorial and somewhat better organized. Not as in depth though. For what it's worth, both are on my desk next to the Mac. I find I grab Schafer's first, but I use them more or less interchangeably. One really nice thing about it is that material I have a hard time finding in Goodman's book shows up easily in Schafer's (and vice versa). And Schafer's book has a nice, pretty, and useful poster. Chuq Von Rospach chuq@sun.COM Delphi: CHUQ What do you mean 'You don't really want to hurt her?' I'm a Super-Villain! That's my Schtick!
john@viper.Lynx.MN.Org (John Stanley) (02/25/88)
In article <2463@utastro.UUCP> werner@utastro.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) writes: >Yesterday, I found a brand-new book in the HAYDEN MACINTOSH LIBRARY Books >series titled: > > HYPERTALK Programming, by Dan Schafer > (includes Version 1.1; includes HyperTalk Language Poster) > > I haven't read enough of it yet to have an opinion >on the contents yet. I did not read the Goodman book, and, therefore, >won't be able to compare them. someone else may have an opinion, though, >and I'd be interested to hear it. I too would be interested in hearing recomendations/comparisons between the two HyperTalk reference books mentioned and any others people may have found... --- John Stanley (john@viper.UUCP) Software Consultant - DynaSoft Systems UUCP: ...{amdahl,ihnp4,rutgers}!meccts!viper!john
straka@ihlpf.ATT.COM (Straka) (02/26/88)
In article <647@viper.Lynx.MN.Org> john@viper.UUCP (John Stanley) writes: |In article <2463@utastro.UUCP| werner@utastro.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) writes: | | HYPERTALK Programming, by Dan Schafer | | (includes Version 1.1; includes HyperTalk Language Poster) | I too would be interested in hearing recomendations/comparisons |between the two HyperTalk reference books mentioned and any others It would be helpful to some of us (at least me) for references to books to include complete information of the book. For me, this means, author, title, publisher, and *ISNB*. -- Rich Straka ihnp4!ihlpf!straka Advice for the day: "MSDOS - just say no."
lchirica@polyslo.UUCP (Laurian Chirica) (02/27/88)
In article <647@viper.Lynx.MN.Org> john@viper.UUCP (John Stanley) writes: >In article <2463@utastro.UUCP> werner@utastro.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) writes: > >Yesterday, I found a brand-new book in the HAYDEN MACINTOSH LIBRARY Books > >series titled: > > HYPERTALK Programming, by Dan Schafer > > (includes Version 1.1; includes HyperTalk Language Poster) > > I haven't read enough of it yet to have an opinion > >on the contents yet. I did not read the Goodman book, and, therefore, > >won't be able to compare them. someone else may have an opinion, though, > >and I'd be interested to hear it. > > I too would be interested in hearing recomendations/comparisons I spent quit a bit of time scanning thru both books. They are both excellent. Goodman's book is more comprehensive but, occasionally, reads more like a repetition of the Apple's reference manual. Shafer's book concentrates on HyperTalk and gives it a more detailed treatment with lots of examples. You can also send for a diskette with all the code published in the book AND all the PD and Shareware code MENTIONED in the book. (I am waiting for it). I would buy both of them (I did) but if I HAD TO choose just one, I would pick Shafer's. -- Laurian M. Chirica Computer Science Department California Polytechnic State University (CAL POLY) San Luis Obispo, CA 93407 - (805) 756-1332
kraut@ut-emx.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) (02/28/88)
In article <3827@ihlpf.ATT.COM>, straka@ihlpf.ATT.COM (Straka) writes: > It would be helpful to some of us (at least me) for references to books to > include complete information of the book. For me, this means, author, title, > publisher, and *ISNB*. ISNB? what is ISNB??? (when you ask for perfection, please deliver perfection! (-:) to quote another part of my original article: ... + if you have questions regarding the + book that I can look up, please send me Email and I'll try to answer. I really meant that ... -- (prefered mailbox:) werner%rascal@sally.utexas.edu ....!ut-sally!rascal.ics.utexas.edu!werner (if rascal unreachable:) werner@utastro.uucp
chuq@plaid.Sun.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (02/28/88)
>It would be helpful to some of us (at least me) for references to books to >include complete information of the book. For me, this means, author, title, >publisher, and *ISNB*. HyperTalk Programming, Includes Version 1.1. Hayden Macintosh Library $24.95 ISBN 0-672-48426-9 Chuq Von Rospach chuq@sun.COM Delphi: CHUQ There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in their home. Ken Olson, President, Digital Equiptment, 1977