gjditchfield@violet.waterloo.edu (Glen Ditchfield) (09/15/88)
In article <68272@sun.uucp> BELSLEY%BCVMS.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU writes: >I have little hope this comment will produce any results, because these >types of anomalous message behaviors have never been corrected in the >various incarnations of HC. For example: > >... HC still does not send a closeField message every time a field closes, >only if its contents have been changed. And here's a problem with openField/closeField interaction: if you click on the same field several times in a row, an openField message is sent for every click, but no closeFields are sent, _even if typing occurs between the clicks_. This messed my scripts up when I needed to process the initial and final values of a field. Do these extra openFields have any usefulness other than as substitute mouseUps? Now, if we can get a third person to complain ... maybe Dan Allen will think its a movement!
dan@Apple.COM (Dan Allen) (09/17/88)
In article <8490@watdragon.waterloo.edu> gjditchfield@violet.waterloo.edu (Glen Ditchfield) writes: >Now, if we can get a third person to complain ... maybe Dan Allen will >think its a movement! Dan Allen hears the complaints, agrees with what is said, and is sympathetic to the cause. However, Dan Allen does not have the say as to changing the order of messages at this moment in time. Bill Atkinson does, and he needs to be convinced that such changes are appropriate and will not unduly break existing stacks. I hope that for the next major release of HyperCard we can have a lot of messages straightened out, such as: NewCard should come before OpenCard TabKey should come before CloseField CloseField should always be called on exit from a field etc. (Add your favorites here -) ) In the meantime, know and understand the quirks and hope that we can get them fixed for 2.0. Dan Allen Apple
u545731798ea@deneb.ucdavis.edu (L. Greg DeMichillie) (09/21/88)
In article <8490@watdragon.waterloo.edu> gjditchfield@violet.waterloo.edu (Glen Ditchfield) writes: >In article <68272@sun.uucp> BELSLEY%BCVMS.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU writes: >>I have little hope this comment will produce any results, because these >>types of anomalous message behaviors have never been corrected in the >>various incarnations of HC. For example: >> [ various complaints about bizarre HyperCard behavior deleted...] > >Now, if we can get a third person to complain ... maybe Dan Allen will >think its a movement! Count me as number 3!!! I have complained directly to Apple (through Outside Bug Reporter) about the openCard message before newCard message. These can't be impossible bugs to fix, and they've been around since version 1.0. I don't know why somebody doesn't just sit down and fix them. I guess they just effect us "stack-heads" and aren't a top priority. sigh.. ----- L. Greg DeMichillie u545731798ea@deneb.ucdavis.edu lgdemichillie@ucdavis.edu AppleLink: ST0178