GETTES@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Michael R. Gettes) (06/05/89)
I am having a bit of a MAJOR problem accessing some stacks. I have done all the checking for viruses and the disk is clean. I have installed no new software as of late. Last week I could access my address and datebook stacks, now if I try and use them Hypercard (1.2.1) hangs and I am forced to reboot. I have checked my backups, and the same problem exists (I backed up just before the weekend). I have lots of data in these stacks I need to recover. I am not pleased. I can FEDIT the files, but retrieving this information in this method is not desirable. I really need some help with this -- Please send direct mail or post to this list. Michael R. Gettes, Princeton University, CIT
jdevoto@Apple.COM (Jeanne A. E. DeVoto) (06/07/89)
[HyperCard hangs when trying to open stacks] Have you replaced your copy of HyperCard *and your Home stack*? A corrupted copy of the application might cause these symptoms. It's less likely that a bad Home stack would cause an actual hang, but it is possible. If all else fails in the attempted recovery of a stack that contains text you want to keep, try changing the stack's type signature from STAK to TEXT and read it with a text editor. jeanne a. e. devoto jdevoto@apple.com
pj@pnet51.cts.com (Paul Jacoby) (06/07/89)
Michael, you want to try getting ahold of "Recover", a stack by Apple that will recover (aptly named, eh?) cards from damaged stacks. It's supposed to be fairly successful. I've not had the opportunity to use it yet. If you can't find it locally, mail me and I'll hex it up for you. .-----------------------------------------------------------------------------. | UUCP: {rosevax, crash, orator}!orbit!pnet51!pj | Working with idiots keeps | | ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51!pj@nosc.mil | my life interesting... | | INET: pj@pnet51.cts.com | | `-----------------------------------------------------------------------------'
GETTES@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Michael R. Gettes) (06/07/89)
In article <32288@apple.Apple.COM>, jdevoto@Apple.COM (Jeanne A. E. DeVoto) writes: >[HyperCard hangs when trying to open stacks] > >Have you replaced your copy of HyperCard *and your Home stack*? A corrupted >copy of the application might cause these symptoms. It's less likely that a >bad Home stack would cause an actual hang, but it is possible. I did neither. Nothing else has changed. I have triple checked this. I have also gone through to see if any other stacks and programs on the system are bad by using them -- all seems fine except for accessing ADDRESS and DATEBOOK. > >If all else fails in the attempted recovery of a stack that contains >text you want to keep, try changing the stack's type signature from STAK >to TEXT and read it with a text editor. > >jeanne a. e. devoto >jdevoto@apple.com Hmmm. A rather unfriendly method, but effective. I guess I am stuck with this. What would cause Hypercard to freak out like this on a Stack? If there was some problem with the stack, should it not report it instead of hang? /mrg
kenk@tellab5.tellabs.CHI.IL.US (Ken Konecki) (06/07/89)
In article <808@orbit.UUCP> pj@pnet51.cts.com (Paul Jacoby) writes: >you want to try getting ahold of "Recover", a stack by Apple that >will recover (aptly named, eh?) cards from damaged stacks. It's supposed to >be fairly successful. I've not had the opportunity to use it yet. > If you can't find it locally, mail me and I'll hex it up for you. Could you post that sucker? I (and I'm sure lots of others) am greatly interested in it, and since our mailer has been broken for the last 5 months (everything bounces) I can't ask you to mail it to me. Thanks a billion, -Ken K -- Ken Konecki "Eat well, stay fit, and die anyway" e-mail:kenk@tellab5.UUCP -or- ...!uunet!tellab5!kenk U.S. Mail: 1271 Portchester Circle, Carol Stream, IL 60188
pj@pnet51.cts.com (Paul Jacoby) (06/09/89)
I hope nobody damages me for doing this, but the StuffIt'ed Recover stack is
only about 6K. Soooo, turn your capture buffer on now, or hit that Kill
key...
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Again, apologies for posting this mid-thread. My access to mac.binaries
submission central is tenuous at best, methinks.
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`-----------------------------------------------------------------------------'Ben.Dover@f823.n102.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Ben Dover) (06/11/89)
I have recovered a stack using the DeleteRes XCMD. The resource fork of a stack can get damaged and make the stack unopenable. Delete the resource fork, open the stack (avoiding all the messages about missing XCMDs), save a copy of the stack and reinstall the XCMDs used into the new copy of the stack (I hope you documented all the XCMDs you used!). I believe the DeleteRes XCMD can be found on the Dartmouth XCMD/XFCN disks. -- Ben Dover via cmhGate - Net 226 fido<=>uucp gateway Col, OH UUCP: ...!osu-cis!n8emr!cmhgate!102!823!Ben.Dover