bskendig@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Brian Kendig) (09/21/89)
In Apple's official pres releases about the new Macintosh Portable and Macintosh IIci computers, reference is made to the fact that both of them come with the system software and HyperCard 1.2.5 already installed on their hard disks. HOLD ON a second here. First of all, when did HyperCard 1.2.5 come into being? Why wasn't it mentioned before? Secondly, unless my math is off, the next version after 1.2.2 would be 1.2.5. So that means Apple screwed up... unless... naaw. They wouldn't have been withholding versions from us, would they have? No, it's just another scrap of proof that Apple can't count (LaserWriter 4.0 to 5.2 to 6.0? Riight.) Thirdly, is this the upgrade to HyperCard that had been promised us? If so, then this means that HyperCard 2.0 is really vaporware, at least until the dogcows come home. Fourthly, and finally, the most important question: What does 1.2.5 do that 1.2.2 didn't? (What did 1.2.3 and 1.2.4 do that... no, I won't ask that.) What bugs does it fix? (What bugs *doesn't* it fix? ... no, I won't ask that either.) Er, um, fifthly: Where do we get it? Ah, the glories of Hyperprogramming! << Brian >> -- | Brian S. Kendig | I feel more like I | bskendig | | Computer Engineering | did when I got here | @phoenix.Princeton.EDU | | Princeton University | than I do now. | @PUCC.BITNET | | Systems Engineering, NASA Space Station Freedom / General Electric WP3 |
chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (09/21/89)
>In Apple's official pres releases about the new Macintosh Portable and >Macintosh IIci computers, reference is made to the fact that both of them >come with the system software and HyperCard 1.2.5 already installed on their >hard disks. >HOLD ON a second here. First of all, when did HyperCard 1.2.5 come into >being? Why wasn't it mentioned before? It was announced today. Before today, it didn't exist. The only changes are ones necessary for support of the IIci and Portable. No functionality changes. >Secondly, unless my math is off, the next version after 1.2.2 would be 1.2.5. >So that means Apple screwed up... unless... naaw. They wouldn't have been >withholding versions from us, would they have? I don't understand numbering, either. I assume that 1.2.4 was something that never got released for unknown reasons. >Thirdly, is this the upgrade to HyperCard that had been promised us? If so, >then this means that HyperCard 2.0 is really vaporware, at least until the >dogcows come home. Don't bet on it. 1.2.5 is a maintenance release only to suppose the new hardware. >Er, um, fifthly: >Where do we get it? Unless you get a IIci or a Portable, you don't need it. It'll get cycled through stock in manufacturing, so over time it'll sh in all systems and with all the standard packagingin. -- Chuq Von Rospach <+> Editor,OtherRealms <+> Member SFWA/ASFA chuq@apple.com <+> CI$: 73317,635 <+> [This is myself speaking. I am not Appl Segmentation Fault. Core dumped.
american@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Jeff Iverson) (09/22/89)
bskendig@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Brian Kendig) writes: >In Apple's official pres releases about the new Macintosh Portable and >Macintosh IIci computers, reference is made to the fact that both of them >come with the system software and HyperCard 1.2.5 already installed on their >hard disks. > >HOLD ON a second here. First of all, when did HyperCard 1.2.5 come into >being? Why wasn't it mentioned before? > >Secondly, unless my math is off, the next version after 1.2.2 would be 1.2.5. >So that means Apple screwed up... unless... naaw. They wouldn't have been >withholding versions from us, would they have? No, it's just another scrap >of proof that Apple can't count (LaserWriter 4.0 to 5.2 to 6.0? Riight.) > >Thirdly, is this the upgrade to HyperCard that had been promised us? If so, >then this means that HyperCard 2.0 is really vaporware, at least until the >dogcows come home. > >Fourthly, and finally, the most important question: > >What does 1.2.5 do that 1.2.2 didn't? (What did 1.2.3 and 1.2.4 do that... >no, I won't ask that.) What bugs does it fix? (What bugs *doesn't* it fix? >... no, I won't ask that either.) > >Er, um, fifthly: > >Where do we get it? > > > Ah, the glories of Hyperprogramming! > > << Brian >> >-- >| Brian S. Kendig | I feel more like I | bskendig | >| Computer Engineering | did when I got here | @phoenix.Princeton.EDU | >| Princeton University | than I do now. | @PUCC.BITNET | >| Systems Engineering, NASA Space Station Freedom / General Electric WP3 | PRODUCT UPDATE Apple Macintosh System Software Version 6.0.4, HyperCard 1.2.5 Dateline: Universal City, Calif.Q September 20, 1989. Product Descriptions System Software: System Software is the operating system for the Macintosh personal computer family. HyperCard: HyperCard is a personal software kit that gives Macintosh users the power to customize, create, and manage information using text, graphics, sound, music, voice, and animation. New Revisions: System Software version 6.0.4. HyperCard version 1.2.5 Significance: System Software 6.0.4 is a revision of System Software 6.0.3 to support the Macintosh Portable and the Macintosh IIci. Both System Software and HyperCard versions are intended for users of the new Macintosh Portable and the IIci. The installed base does not have to upgrade to these releases. System Software versions 6.0.2, 6.0.3, and 6.04. will co-exist in networked environments. Users will need to upgrade to System Software 6.0.4 to use HyperCard 1.2.5. Availability: Immediately. Update Policy: Stand-alone versions of System Software 6.0.4 and HyperCard 1.2.5 can be purchased separately for $49.95 each. Distribution Channels: System Software version 6.0.4 is available through all certified Apple dealers, resellers, and electronic bulletin boards. HyperCard 1.2.5 is available through Apple dealers, resellers, licensed Macintosh User groups, and APDA. Both versions will also be packaged with all new Macintosh personal compH beginning immediately. Contact: Cindy McCaffrey (408) 974-1578 UUCP: {amdahl!bungia, uunet!rosevax, chinet, killer}!orbit!pnet51!american ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51!american@nosc.mil INET: american@pnet51.cts.com GEnie: APOSTASY AppleLink: ALL.AMERICAN U. S. Mail: All-American Software Development Corp. 5612 International Parkway Minneapolis MN 55428 Jeff Iverson
jkc@Apple.COM (John Kevin Calhoun) (09/22/89)
HyperCard 1.2.5 is a maintenance release intended solely for the purpose of supporting the new CPU's. There are, alas, no new features. Kevin Calhoun HyperCard Team
thecloud@dhw68k.cts.com (Ken McLeod) (09/23/89)
In article <34913@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes: > >>Secondly, unless my math is off, the next version after 1.2.2 would be 1.2.5. >>So that means Apple screwed up... unless... naaw. They wouldn't have been >>withholding versions from us, would they have? > [...] >Don't bet on it. 1.2.5 is a maintenance release only to suppose the new >hardware. Here's my theory: Apple is all set to release HyperCard 1.2.3. Lotus gets wind of the forthcoming announcement, and sends some 'o da boys over for a friendly visit to Apple Legal. "If youse releases ANYTHING with '1.2.3' in its name, we'll show you the real meaning of 'look-n-feel'!" Disclaimer: This is all pure fiction, of course. You knew that. Addendum: "1, 2, 5... no! 3! Run away!" -- ========== ....... ============================================= Ken McLeod :. .: UUCP: ...{spsd,zardoz,felix}!dhw68k!thecloud ========== :::.. ..::: INTERNET: thecloud@dhw68k.cts.com //// =============================================
mithomas@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Michael Thomas Niehaus) (09/25/89)
It appears that the similarity with Lotus 1-2-3 caused the renumbering. If you have access to AppleLink, look through some of the spec documents posted there. If you look close enough at the earliest ones, they do say that it is version 1.2.3. Only the latest documents say '1.2.5'. -Michael -- Michael Niehaus UUCP: <backbones>!{iuvax,pur-ee}!bsu-cs!mithomas Apple Student Rep ARPA: mithomas@bsu-cs.bsu.edu Ball State University AppleLink: ST0374 (from UUCP: st0374@applelink.apple.com)