[comp.sys.mac.hypercard] HyperCard 1.2.5? WAAAAIIT a second here...

bskendig@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Brian Kendig) (09/21/89)

In Apple's official pres releases about the new Macintosh Portable and
Macintosh IIci computers, reference is made to the fact that both of them
come with the system software and HyperCard 1.2.5 already installed on their
hard disks.

HOLD ON a second here.  First of all, when did HyperCard 1.2.5 come into
being?  Why wasn't it mentioned before?

Secondly, unless my math is off, the next version after 1.2.2 would be 1.2.5.
So that means Apple screwed up... unless... naaw.  They wouldn't have been
withholding versions from us, would they have?  No, it's just another scrap
of proof that Apple can't count (LaserWriter 4.0 to 5.2 to 6.0?  Riight.)

Thirdly, is this the upgrade to HyperCard that had been promised us?  If so,
then this means that HyperCard 2.0 is really vaporware, at least until the
dogcows come home.

Fourthly, and finally, the most important question:

What does 1.2.5 do that 1.2.2 didn't?  (What did 1.2.3 and 1.2.4 do that...
no, I won't ask that.)  What bugs does it fix?  (What bugs *doesn't* it fix?
... no, I won't ask that either.)

Er, um, fifthly:

Where do we get it?


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chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (09/21/89)

>In Apple's official pres releases about the new Macintosh Portable and
>Macintosh IIci computers, reference is made to the fact that both of them
>come with the system software and HyperCard 1.2.5 already installed on their
>hard disks.

>HOLD ON a second here.  First of all, when did HyperCard 1.2.5 come into
>being?  Why wasn't it mentioned before?

It was announced today. Before today, it didn't exist. The only changes are
ones necessary for support of the IIci and Portable. No functionality
changes.

>Secondly, unless my math is off, the next version after 1.2.2 would be 1.2.5.
>So that means Apple screwed up... unless... naaw.  They wouldn't have been
>withholding versions from us, would they have?

I don't understand numbering, either. I assume that 1.2.4 was something that
never got released for unknown reasons.

>Thirdly, is this the upgrade to HyperCard that had been promised us?  If so,
>then this means that HyperCard 2.0 is really vaporware, at least until the
>dogcows come home.

Don't bet on it. 1.2.5 is a maintenance release only to suppose the new
hardware.

>Er, um, fifthly:

>Where do we get it?

Unless you get a IIci or a Portable, you don't need it. It'll get cycled
through stock in manufacturing, so over time it'll sh in all systems and
with all the standard packagingin.


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american@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Jeff Iverson) (09/22/89)

bskendig@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Brian Kendig) writes:
>In Apple's official pres releases about the new Macintosh Portable and
>Macintosh IIci computers, reference is made to the fact that both of them
>come with the system software and HyperCard 1.2.5 already installed on their
>hard disks.
>
>HOLD ON a second here.  First of all, when did HyperCard 1.2.5 come into
>being?  Why wasn't it mentioned before?
>
>Secondly, unless my math is off, the next version after 1.2.2 would be 1.2.5.
>So that means Apple screwed up... unless... naaw.  They wouldn't have been
>withholding versions from us, would they have?  No, it's just another scrap
>of proof that Apple can't count (LaserWriter 4.0 to 5.2 to 6.0?  Riight.)
>
>Thirdly, is this the upgrade to HyperCard that had been promised us?  If so,
>then this means that HyperCard 2.0 is really vaporware, at least until the
>dogcows come home.
>
>Fourthly, and finally, the most important question:
>
>What does 1.2.5 do that 1.2.2 didn't?  (What did 1.2.3 and 1.2.4 do that...
>no, I won't ask that.)  What bugs does it fix?  (What bugs *doesn't* it fix?
>... no, I won't ask that either.)
>
>Er, um, fifthly:
>
>Where do we get it?
>
>
>  Ah, the glories of Hyperprogramming!
>
>     << Brian >>
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>| Computer Engineering  |  did when I got here  | @phoenix.Princeton.EDU     |
>| Princeton University  |       than I do now.  | @PUCC.BITNET               |
>| Systems Engineering, NASA Space Station Freedom / General Electric WP3     |

PRODUCT UPDATE
 
Apple Macintosh
System Software Version 6.0.4,
HyperCard 1.2.5
 
 
Dateline:  Universal City, Calif.Q September 20, 1989.
 
Product Descriptions    System Software:   System Software is the
operating system for the Macintosh personal computer family.
 
HyperCard:  HyperCard is a personal software kit that gives
Macintosh users the power to customize, create, and manage
information using text, graphics, sound, music, voice, and
animation.
 
New Revisions: System Software version 6.0.4.  HyperCard
version 1.2.5
 
Significance:  System Software 6.0.4 is a revision of System
Software 6.0.3 to support the Macintosh Portable and the
Macintosh IIci. Both System Software and HyperCard versions
are intended for users of the new Macintosh Portable and the
IIci.  The installed base does not have to upgrade to these
releases. System Software versions 6.0.2, 6.0.3, and 6.04.
will co-exist in networked environments.  Users will need to
upgrade to System Software 6.0.4 to use HyperCard 1.2.5.
 
Availability:  Immediately.
 
Update Policy: Stand-alone versions of System Software
6.0.4 and HyperCard 1.2.5 can be purchased separately for
$49.95 each.
 
Distribution Channels: System Software version 6.0.4 is
available through all certified Apple dealers, resellers,
and electronic bulletin boards.  HyperCard 1.2.5 is available
through Apple dealers, resellers, licensed Macintosh User
groups, and APDA.  Both versions will also be packaged
with all new Macintosh personal compH beginning immediately.
 
Contact:
 
Cindy McCaffrey
(408) 974-1578

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jkc@Apple.COM (John Kevin Calhoun) (09/22/89)

HyperCard 1.2.5 is a maintenance release intended solely for the purpose
of supporting the new CPU's.  There are, alas, no new features.

Kevin Calhoun
HyperCard Team

thecloud@dhw68k.cts.com (Ken McLeod) (09/23/89)

In article <34913@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>
>>Secondly, unless my math is off, the next version after 1.2.2 would be 1.2.5.
>>So that means Apple screwed up... unless... naaw.  They wouldn't have been
>>withholding versions from us, would they have?
> [...]
>Don't bet on it. 1.2.5 is a maintenance release only to suppose the new
>hardware.

  Here's my theory: Apple is all set to release HyperCard 1.2.3. Lotus gets
wind of the forthcoming announcement, and sends some 'o da boys over for a
friendly visit to Apple Legal. "If youse releases ANYTHING with '1.2.3' in
its name, we'll show you the real meaning of 'look-n-feel'!"


Disclaimer: This is all pure fiction, of course. You knew that.
Addendum:  "1, 2, 5... no! 3! Run away!"
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mithomas@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Michael Thomas Niehaus) (09/25/89)

It appears that the similarity with Lotus 1-2-3 caused the renumbering.  If
you have access to AppleLink, look through some of the spec documents posted
there.  If you look close enough at the earliest ones, they do say that it
is version 1.2.3.  Only the latest documents say '1.2.5'.

-Michael

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