[comp.sys.mac.hypercard] Running HC over AppleShare

21602MR@MSU.BITNET (Mark Rosenberg) (11/21/89)

I thought I remembered someone posting something somewhere about being able to
run HC over appleshare ?  We have some Macs (dual drive se's) and there isn't
enough floppy room to have HC on the disk also.  I thought if I had a individua
l copy of Home on each system disk that we would be okay, but I get the THIS
APPLICATION IS BUSY/MISSING message when trying this.  Any ideas ?

Thanks,

/M.

dent@unocss..unl.edu (Stan Wileman) (11/23/89)

21602MR@MSU.BITNET (Mark Rosenberg) writes:

>I thought I remembered someone posting something somewhere about being able to
>run HC over appleshare ?  We have some Macs (dual drive se's) and there isn't
>enough floppy room to have HC on the disk also.  I thought if I had a individua
>l copy of Home on each system disk that we would be okay, but I get the THIS
>APPLICATION IS BUSY/MISSING message when trying this.  Any ideas ?

>Thanks,

>/M.

I doubt that I was the person you were talking about, but here we run 13 SE's
with 20-Meg hard drives, off of a SE/30 server running AppleShare.  As a front-
end to the applications, we have a HyperCard stack that is shared by all of the
SE's.  A copy of the HyperCard application has to reside on the boot disk
(and we have it set as the startup application) for this to work; otherwise
Finder won't know where to FInd it. :-)  It may be possible, if you can get the
AppleShare volume to mount, and convince the Finder to take a look at it, so
it remembers where HyperCard is, but I'm not sure how to do this...

(Our 'home' stack is actually a very small stack that mounts the AppleShare
volume, and then runs a stack called "Main" that lives on the server..)

-/ Dave Caplinger /---------------------------------------------------------
 Microcomputer Specialist,   Campus Computing,   Univ. of Nebraska at Omaha
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CHOOPER@acad.cut.oz (Todd Hooper) (11/24/89)

In article <15321602MR@MSU>, 21602MR@MSU.BITNET (Mark Rosenberg) writes:
> I thought I remembered someone posting something somewhere about being able to
> run HC over appleshare ?  We have some Macs (dual drive se's) and there isn't
> enough floppy room to have HC on the disk also.  I thought if I had a individua
> l copy of Home on each system disk that we would be okay, but I get the THIS
> APPLICATION IS BUSY/MISSING message when trying this.  Any ideas ?

Yep. Your copy of the HyperCard application on the server is probably
only set to allow one user. Thus, the first user get's in o.k., but others
are rejected.

To fix this, you need ResEdit, and write access to the HyperCard application.
Launch ResEdit, move to the server volume, locate HyperCard and do a 'Get
Info' on it. The 'Shared' bit probably isn't set. Set it and close the
get info box to save the changes.

I hope this is of some help. Also, a couple of other ideas that I have
used that could be of help - 

 - You might want to set up some particular search paths in the Home stack 
   you are using, so HyperCard can find all it's relevant stacks on the 
   server. 

 - If you want to use a wide range of fonts with HyperCard, but you don't 
   have room on the floppies, remember you can always install them into 
   the HyperCard application itself! (Hold down the Option key when selecting 
   'Open' in Font/DA Mover).

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taylorj@yvax.byu.edu (11/25/89)

>I thought I remembered someone posting something somewhere about being able to
>run HC over appleshare ?  We have some Macs (dual drive se's) and there isn't
>enough floppy room to have HC on the disk also.  I thought if I had a individua
>l copy of Home on each system disk that we would be okay, but I get the THIS
>APPLICATION IS BUSY/MISSING message when trying this.  Any ideas?

How are you starting HyperCard?  If you just click on HyperCard, it will
generally find a copy of Home on the server, and chances are someone else is
"using" it.  You only need one copy of HyperCard, but you need multiple copies
of the Home stack.  As long as each user starts up on their own copy of the
Home stack everything works ok.

Actually, things don't work ok when you go off to another application.
HyperCard will try to find the Home stack on the server, which will either
cause "busy/missing" messages or a "where is Home?" dialog.  You can solve this
problem by giving all startup disks the same name and messing around with the
"Misc" STR# resource in HyperCard.


Jim Taylor
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