anthony@cs.adelaide.edu.au (Anthony Dunstan) (12/17/90)
I have a need to grey out text,
I do apologise if this has been discussed in detail.
I also would like to grey out objects (entire fields, buttons, etc).
But I have a feeling that HyperCard can't.
I have heard rumours that one should just create a FONT
which is greyed, but I lack in both details and know-how.
Could some nice person please help me out?
ANOTHER QUESTION:
To HyperCard Engineers: are there any future plans
to improve HyperCard's find command?
To Netters: are there ANY alternatives to HyperCard's
find command? ie: XCMDS, XFCNS, and other assorted grotty code?
Thankyou,
Anthony.
PS: Let's not take the INCREDIBLE support we are getting from
the HyperCard Engineers for granted in this newsgroup.
I'd like to wish all you nice HyperCard Engies a safe
and happy Christmas!
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| Anthony Dunstan University of Adelaide Apple Consortium |
| A Macintosh CyberMan anthony@cs.adelaide.edu.au |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------jdevoto@Apple.COM (Jeanne A. E. DeVoto) (12/17/90)
In article <2180@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au> anthony@cs.adelaide.edu.au (Anthony Dunstan) writes: >I have a need to grey out text, >I also would like to grey out objects (entire fields, buttons, etc). >But I have a feeling that HyperCard can't. At the end of this message is a binhexed file which contains a grayed-out Chicago font. Use it in good health. (To change a button's font, do set the textFont to "Chicago Hollow" .) If you want to gray out entire objects, probably the easiest way to fake it is to draw the grayed object on the card or background picture, then show or hide your object as needed. When the field or other object is hidden, the painted gray version will show, and it will look as though the object has been grayed out. > To HyperCard Engineers: are there any future plans >to improve HyperCard's find command? > To Netters: are there ANY alternatives to HyperCard's >find command? ie: XCMDS, XFCNS, and other assorted grotty code? 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jdevoto@Apple.COM (Jeanne A. E. DeVoto) (12/17/90)
In article <47422@apple.Apple.COM>, I wrote: >(To change a button's font, do set the textFont to "Chicago Hollow" .) What I meant was set the textFont of button "foo" to "Chicago Hollow" Sorry about that. -- ========= jeanne a. e. devoto ======================================== jdevoto@apple.com | You may not distribute this article under a jdevoto@well.sf.ca.us | compilation copyright without my permission. ______________________________________________________________________ Apple Computer and I are not authorized | CI$: 72411,165 to speak for each other. |
jkc@Apple.COM (John Kevin Calhoun) (12/18/90)
In article <2180@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au> anthony@cs.adelaide.edu.au (Anthony Dunstan) writes: > To HyperCard Engineers: are there any future plans >to improve HyperCard's find command? I don't know what future plans Claris has for HyperCard. Just what would you like? >I'd like to wish all you nice HyperCard Engies a safe >and happy Christmas! Thank you. I wish the same for you and yours. Kevin Calhoun HyperCard Team Apple Computer, Inc.
lalor@cod.NOSC.MIL (Joe Lalor) (12/18/90)
From article <47429@apple.Apple.COM>, by jkc@Apple.COM (John Kevin Calhoun): > > In article <2180@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au> anthony@cs.adelaide.edu.au > (Anthony Dunstan) writes: >> To HyperCard Engineers: are there any future plans >>to improve HyperCard's find command? > > I don't know what future plans Claris has for HyperCard. > Just what would you like? > > Kevin Calhoun > HyperCard Team > Apple Computer, Inc. I am getting REALLY worried about the future of HyperCard when Kevin responds that he doesn't "know what future plans Claris has for HyperCard." This tells me that the some of the Apple genius that made HyperCard such a wonderful product did not tranfer over to Claris when HyperCard did. HyperCard has netted the company I work for (SAIC in San Diego) well over a $1 million since its inception in government contracts to develop stand alones as well as front ends to large programs and I sense that all of this business could be jeopardized because of HyperCard being transferred to Claris. Did I mention that I am getting REALLY worried about the future of Hypercard...? There is a serious disturbance in the Force.... Say it ain't so, Kevin, say it ain't so.... JOE LALOR lalor@nosc.mil
anthony@chook.adelaide.edu.au (Anthony Dunstan) (12/18/90)
In article <47429@apple.Apple.COM>, jkc@Apple.COM (John Kevin Calhoun) writes: |> |> In article <2180@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au> anthony@cs.adelaide.edu.au |> (Anthony Dunstan) writes: |> > To HyperCard Engineers: are there any future plans |> >to improve HyperCard's find command? |> |> I don't know what future plans Claris has for HyperCard. Does this mean that your accumulated HC knowledge and expertise goes out the window? John, what implications does this have w.r.t. future HC rewrites/upgrades? It would be such a waste to have to "start again" on HC 3.0 without you and your fellow Engineer's expertise. |> Just what would you like? [...additions to find command...] Currently I am using specific 'hidden' cards to store all my resources/variables and I use 'find' to retrieve/test user inputted data. ie: I go get a variable I have stored on my variables card by using the find command. The problem is that HC insists on taking me to the card, this I do not want. 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ba0k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Brian Patrick Arnold) (12/19/90)
Howdy, On 17-Dec-90 in Re: Greying out things user Joe Lalor@cod.NOSC.MIL writes: >I am getting REALLY worried about the future of HyperCard when Kevin >responds that he doesn't "know what future plans Claris has for... I have a simple question for Mr. Lalor: Do you honestly think Claris would take over HyperCard support and bring in the HyperCard team if Claris *didn't* have future plans for HyperCard? Duhh. Get some rest and have a very happy holiday! - Brian