vogt@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Michael Vogt) (02/21/91)
Does anyone have experience with Reports 2.0? Has anyone received their upgrade? (If so, what was included and what version of HC did you receive with it)? Thanks -Mike
Jim.Russell@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Russell) (02/21/91)
Reports 2.0 came with HC 2.0v2. I find it indispensable for commercial
applications.
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blkcat.fidonet.org and Fidonet 1:109/401fvernon@cudnvr.denver.colorado.edu (Frank Vernon) (02/22/91)
Reports 2.0 is a complete rewrite to Reports 1.2.X. It is now sold
directly by Nine to Five Software and is no longer handled by Activision.
It includes HyperCard 2.0v2, a Home Stack and some example stacks and reports.
It also includes "MasterView" which is a new product that allows you create
simple row and column displays of the information in your stacks. MasterView
also allows you to edit your HyperCard fields directly in MasterView and then
optionally save the changes back to HyperCard, MasterView or both.
Reports 2.0 and MasterView are both fully compatible with HyperCard 1.2.X
and HyperCard 2.0
Reports 2.0 & MasterView now run directly on top of HyperCard instead of
being independent applications. This makes the overall response times much
quicker and allows for more interaction with HyperCard. The entire system
installs only 5K of external commands into HyperCard!
The primary interface to Reports 2.0 is now handled through a single
floating palette, but all of the controls available on the palette are
accessible through HyperTalk scripts, so the interface can be completely
customized. (No more "Report Card"!)
Other new features include:
Multiple break sections
Support for color printing
Increased search and sort speeds
(about 100 cards/sec. on Mac II's or better)
Data format options (Dollar signs, Percent signs, etc.)
New script handlers
Ability to print from more that one background
Reports 2.0 is only available through Nine to Five Software at this
point. If you would like more info, send E-Mail to any of the addresses below
or call 1-800-2-925-925.
E-Mail-
InterNet: FVERNON@CUDNVR.DENVER.COLORADO.EDU
BitNet: FVENRON@CUDENVER
America Online: NineToFive
AppleLink: D0896
US Mail-
Nine to Five Software, Inc.
3360 Mitchell Lane, Suite 105
Boulder, CO 80301
(303) 443-4104
Frank Vernon-
Nine to Five Software - Tech Supportrobt@mummy.agsm.unsw.oz.au (Rob Trevor) (02/22/91)
In article <1991Feb20.210612.3704@news.cs.indiana.edu> vogt@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Michael Vogt) writes: > Does anyone have experience with Reports 2.0? Has anyone received their > upgrade? (If so, what was included and what version of HC did you receive > with it)? Could somebody please send me ugrade info (including a NON 800 number)? I'm a registered user, but haven't received any upgrade info. Thanks Rob --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Trevor robt@mummy.agsm.unsw.oz.au Associate Professor robt@agsm.unsw.oz.au Australian Graduate School of Management University of New South Wales PO Box 1 VOICE: +61 (2) 662-0274 Kensington, NSW FAX: +61 (2) 662-2451 AUSTRALIA 2033 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
ollef@sics.se (Olle Furberg) (02/23/91)
In <3592.27C3FF62@blkcat.fidonet.org> Jim.Russell@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Russell) writes: >Reports 2.0 came with HC 2.0v2. I find it indispensable for commercial >applications. So, how's the interface? When I used Report 1.* I found it very easy and comfortable to make the report-templates, but I had big problems with the so called "Report Card": I newer managed to print a report from within a script without use of that card.
Jim.Russell@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Russell) (02/25/91)
TO:FVERNON@CUDNVR.DENVER.COLORADO.EDU
Noticed your pitch re Reports 2.0 -- I think I had replied to the
original message also, but I just told them it was good and they needed
it!
We got an upgrade from you the other day, and see that a problem with
numberFormat got blamed on HC 2.0. Was that the problem we were
struggling with? What did you finally find?
/Jim Russell, Practice Management Systems (Medical Bill Management)
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blkcat.fidonet.org and Fidonet 1:109/401Jim.Russell@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Russell) (02/25/91)
The Reports 2.0 interface has been improved substantially. The Reports
card is gone*, and has been replaced with an icon that presents a
palette that is used to select, update, and run reports, and even lets
the user navigate the cards that were selected for the report. The
Nine To Five folks blamed the Reports card approach on Activision, and
they included the Reports button in version 1.2.2 that was much better.
(Use the script from that button as a model if you want to run reports
in the earlier versions without bothering with the Reports card.)
*The first thing you want to do when you convert a stack to HV 2.0 and
Reports 2.0 is to get rid of the reports card -- trying to run a 1.2.2
report on a stack converted to 2.0 is _very_ likely to corrupt and ruin
your stack!
It seems the NineToFive folks have provided enough hooks to ensure that
there is nothing (other than report definition) that you can't do
entirely from within scripts - the button and palette are never
required if you choose to not use them.
The only downsides that I have found so far are:
1. You can no longer print the layout defnition.
2. You can have only one report definition open at a time.
3. The use of the debugger is not documented, and while you can use it
(a _huge_ improvement over 1.2.2!) you do need to be careful to
close the script window before a rerun or your changes will not
take effect and you will drive yourself crazy wondering why your
fixes seemed to have no effect. I've gotten in to the habit (using
a 9" screen, of always checking the menu to see if any other
windows are open before I rerun a report.
4. Reports still appropriates the card script when it runs -- you can
no longer execute any handlers at the card script level when you
run, and if you are unlucky, you can lose your card script as you
test and update.
I won't list all the improvements, but they are substantial.
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