[comp.sys.mac.hypercard] Why?

barek@lake.scar.toronto.edu (William Barek) (03/27/91)

Why?
Is it a compaint ? Perhaps. When HC 2.0 came out I was excited, and glad
that I waited with a development of some teaching stacks. After the initial
excitement over the improvements there are some basic omitions that are
producing an impulse to throw the whole thing out.
   I could perhaps live without full implementation of colour, however it
   is sadening to see other packages and systems implementing it.

   What I really found frustrating is the following:

   In a text field you can't produce superscript or subscript, so acadenic
   stacks for chemistry is out. Really smart omision. How much overhead
   there could be to ad it? It is comendable that HC 2.0 with all the
   improvements hasn't increased in size too much but that should not be a
   reason for not including it. Usefulness should be the driving force !
   Also, limitation of 30,000 characters in a field is frustrating and not
   having ruler in the text field just tops it.

   Secondly, I could not belive that sorting is almost useless (please no
   flames). Why. Have you ever tried to sort 2 fields ( one text, other
   numeric) or lines in a field that have two columns one is text other is
   numeric). To me it is a very basic operation, why this was missed or am
   I missing something?


   Now,dear neters, have anyone got some XC or XF's that will provide these
   functionalities. Please respond on net or directly to:

   barek@bluffs.scar.utoronto.ca       Many thanks

kenk@tellabs.com (Ken Konecki) (03/28/91)

In article <120@lake.scar.toronto.edu> barek@lake.scar.toronto.edu (William Barek) writes:
!   In a text field you can't produce superscript or subscript...
!   Also, limitation of 30,000 characters in a field is frustrating and not
!   having ruler in the text field just tops it.

Why rewrite TextEdit? It gets the job done for all but the most esoteric
requirements. Methinks if you need more than 30K in a field you oughta
rethink what you're putting into that field.

Cheers,
    -Ken K
-- 
Ken Konecki
"You call some place paradise, kiss it goodbye."
e-mail:kenk@tellabs.com    -or-    ...!uunet!tellab5!kenk	

ireland@ac.dal.ca (03/29/91)

In article , barek@lake.scar.toronto.edu (William Barek) write> Why?
> 
>    In a text field you can't produce superscript or subscript, so acadenic
>    stacks for chemistry is out. Really smart omision. ?
> 
>    barek@bluffs.scar.utoronto.ca       Many thanks

There are a number of mac programs which can't do superscripts or
subscripts. One solution is to make a special font with characters
raised and lowered to simulate them.  Someone (Bruce Long?) made some
fonts called "HiLo" which are available by anonymous ftp from sumex.

Keith Conover
ireland@ac.dal.ca

Roger.W.Brown@dartmouth.edu (Roger W. Brown) (04/12/91)

In article <120@lake.scar.toronto.edu>
barek@lake.scar.toronto.edu (William Barek) writes:

> Have you ever tried to sort 2 fields ( one text, other
>    numeric) or lines in a field that have two columns one is text other is
>    numeric).

The Dartmouth XCMD's stack version 3.4.3 has an XCMD called MultiSort
that lets you do multilevel sorts on a field if your "columns" are
expressed as items. It will sort alphabetic, numeric, or data/time
ascending or descending. It was written for HC version 1, however, and
does not preserve text styles. 

Dartmouth XCMD's is available on various bulleting boards and via FTP
in /pub/mac/DXCMDs3.4.3.sit.hqx on dartvax.dartmouth.edu.

Roger W. Brown
Courseware Development
Dartmouth College
Hanover, NH