[comp.sys.mac.hypercard] Hypercard magazines

dll@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Lemberg) (04/24/91)

I am looking for a magazine that deals only with hypercard, are there any
out there and if so how can I get them?
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rgoldstone@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Robin Goldstone) (04/24/91)

In article <1991Apr24.000245.11194@clark.edu>, dll@pro-freedom.cts.com 
(David Lemberg) writes:
>I am looking for a magazine that deals only with hypercard, are there any
>out there and if so how can I get them?

I recently received info about a publication called "Inside HyperCard" from
the Cobb Group.  Billed as "the HyperCrad-specific newsletter featuring
programming tips, tricks and techniques".  I have not subscribed yet, but
am considering it.  It is expensive, though: $50/year.

The address on the reply card is:
Inside HyperCard
The Cobb Group
PO Box 35160
Louisville, KY 40232-9719

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chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach, only here for the beer) (04/25/91)

rgoldstone@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Robin Goldstone) writes:

>I recently received info about a publication called "Inside HyperCard" from
>the Cobb Group.  Billed as "the HyperCrad-specific newsletter featuring
>programming tips, tricks and techniques".  I have not subscribed yet, but
>am considering it.  It is expensive, though: $50/year.

They turn out a series of these newsletters -- inside word, inside excel,
inside FileMaker. They're all expensive, and from the samples I've seen,
none of them are worth what they charge. Maybe at half the price (they're
not worthless, but simply not that good). 

On the other hand, they DO turn out some of the better third party manuals.
The Cobb Group book on Word 4 is my 'bible' on the program.

As to Hypercard, there were some early hypercard-specific magazines out
there. They all, as far as I know, folded. Macintosh Hands-On took on
hypercard as well (finally using it as an excuse to stop pushing Basic on
the Mac). I think it's still around but I stopped reading it early on --
simply because it was too gosh-wow with very little depth or substance.

If you're looking for hardcore Hypercard stuff, you're probably in trouble.
MacTutor (which I have a love/hate relationship with -- lots of neat techie
stuff, but also lots of typos, bugs, half-thought out ideas and the code can
be a compatibility nightmare) does HC stuff. So did Macintosh Technical
Journal, which just died (sigh). 

For detailed technical stuff and hacking, Mactutor, for all its weaknesses,
is probably the best bet, but it's not specific to hypercard.

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mike@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.Edu (Michael Kerner) (04/25/91)

Nope!  I used to subscribe to Macintosh HandsOn, too.  However, about three
years ago or so it folded, too.  Inside HyperCard is the last one left (which
just started).  I'm not sure if all the data is that worthless for the price.
I'm going to subscribe to it and see what happens.  The first issue was pretty
weak on the technical aspects and the depth issues, but it seems like it was
written by people who had a relatively good idea of what they were talking
about...of course, once you reach a certain level, you learn best by picking
up stacks that other people have written and inspecting them.

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eallen@mercury.sybase.com (Ed Allen) (04/26/91)

In article <1991Apr24.000245.11194@clark.edu> dll@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Lemberg) writes:
>I am looking for a magazine that deals only with hypercard, are there any
>out there and if so how can I get them?
>----
>ProLine:  dll@pro-freedom
>Internet: dll@pro-freedom.cts.com
>UUCP:     clark!pro-freedom!dll
>ARPA:     clark!pro-freedom!dll@nosc.mil


Two went belly up in the last couple of years.  Right now the only one I know
of is an exorbitantly expensive one called Inside HyperCard from the Cobb Group
I think.  It's a very thin magazine of the "important facts you need to know
as a professional manager" newsletter style.  Something like $70 a year.

Ed Allen  eallen@sybase.com

Harry.Myhre@p2.f863.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Harry Myhre) (04/26/91)

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km2a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kenneth E. Mohnkern) (04/26/91)

There used to be quite a good magazine called "Macintosh Hands On" that
had several stacks (from the most basic to pretty complex) and some
Basic programs included. They have gone out of business. I wrote to them
for back issues, but all they had were issues I already had and really
old ones from the days when they did mostly Basic programming. I can get
the address from home and post it if anyone's interested.

I recently got a notice in the mail from the Cobb Group. They're
starting up a newsletter ("No Ads. No Opinion Columns. Not a Single
Distraction.") on HyperCard. 

Their address is:
    Inside HyperCard
    The Cobb Group
    PO Box 35160
    Louisville KY 40232-9719


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