zark@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Steven M Kosloske) (06/22/91)
I recently bought the HyperCard 2.1 upgrade for $49, (yeah, it took me long enough) and I saw that they're selling a HyperCard Developers kit, (they meaning Claris) for $140. Is the $50 upgrade crippled at all, or does the Developers kit have a lot of extra toys for development/debugging stacks? -- (Steve Kosloske) | "If you want it today, you can ------------------------------------| have it, but don't expect it Internet: zark@csd4.csd.uwm.edu | tomorrow. " - Mike Pluta UUCP: uunet!zark@csd4.csd.uwm.edu |
johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu (06/22/91)
In article <13282@uwm.edu>, zark@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Steven M Kosloske) writes... >I recently bought the HyperCard 2.1 upgrade for $49, (yeah, it took me long >enough) and I saw that they're selling a HyperCard Developers kit, (they >meaning Claris) for $140. Is the $50 upgrade crippled at all, or does >the Developers kit have a lot of extra toys for development/debugging >stacks? Two quibbles: it's Development Kit, not Developer's Kit. And there aren't any "crippled" versions of HyperCard. Any idiot with legs long enough to reach the pedals can drive away any the so-called "Lite" versions of the Home stack by typing "set the userLevel to 5" into the message box. HyperCard 2.x is quite a jump for somebody that hasn't seen it before. The Development Kit includes the kind of things that used to fit to into the 1.x users manuals, which now occupies 5 volumes. The Script Language guide that ships with the $49 upgrade is more like a dictionary. Both of them are good deals for the prices that Claris is asking. One request for Apple/Claris: HC 2.1 has great features that I'd like to put into every script. It's one thing to check for 2.x vs. 1.x if it is essential to support the old HyperCard, but it starts getting tedious to check for 2.0, 2.0v2, and 2.1 just so I can use a few of the 2.1-specific functions and properties. Somehow, we've got to get the HyperCard 2.1 binary onto EVERY Mac so that 2.x specific development can proceed. I don't know what to tell the lawyers, but I can guarantee one thing for the BEAN-COUNTERS: sales of HC 2.1 will INCREASE if you start by giving away HyperCard Lite. People will then be able to see what HC 2.1, and they will be motivated to buy good documentation -- especially if they know that there are people out there to use the stacks that they write. -- Bill (johnston@minnie.me.udel.edu)
bcarter@claven.idbsu.edu (Bruce Carter) (06/24/91)
In article <13282@uwm.edu> zark@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Steven M Kosloske) writes: >I recently bought the HyperCard 2.1 upgrade for $49, (yeah, it took me long >enough) and I saw that they're selling a HyperCard Developers kit, (they >meaning Claris) for $140. Is the $50 upgrade crippled at all, or does >the Developers kit have a lot of extra toys for development/debugging >stacks? The Development (not Developer's) kit just has more documentation, and may have a couple of extra stacks (I have heard differing reports on this). The HyperCard application itself is the same in both packages. <-> Bruce Carter, Courseware Development Coordinator bcarter@claven.idbsu.edu Boise State University, Boise, ID 83725 duscarte@idbsu.bitnet (This message contains personal opinions only) (208)385-1250@phone