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Welcome to NETWEAVER The interactive, intersystem newsletter of the Electronic Networking Association "Our purpose is to promote electronic networking in ways that enrich individuals, enhance organizations, and build global communities." _______________________________________________________________ Volume 3, Number 11 November 1987 Copyright(c) by Electronic Networking Association (ENA), 1987 NETWEAVER is published electronically on Networking and World Information (NWI), 333 East River Drive, East Hartford, CT, 06108 (1-800-624-5916) using Participate (R) sofware from Network Technologies International, Inc. (NETI), Ann Arbor, MI. Managing Editor: Lisa Carlson Contributing Editors: Mike Blaszczak Al Martin Stan Pokras George Por Peg Rossing Tom Sherman Philip Siddons ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: NETWEAVER is available via NewsNet, the world's leading vendor of full-text business and professional newsletters online. Read, Search or Scan all issues of NETWEAVER as TE55 in NewsNet's Telecommunications industry category. For access details call 800-345-1301. In PA or outside the U.S., call 215-527-8030. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: We *welcome* anyone interested in joining the Netweaver staff! The deadline for articles for the next issue is the 15th of the month. KUDOS to the "porters," unsung heroes of the Network Nation! One of them has brought this issue to you. --------------------------------------------------------------- Volume 3, Number 11 ---CONTENTS--- November 1987 1 Masthead and Index 2 ENA UPDATE ................................ by Lisa Carlson (1992 char) Mark your calendars for the next ENA conference. Everyone is invited to suggest ideas for the program and to volunteer to participate in program planning and development. 3 SOFTWARE FOR SELF-DEVELOPMENT ........... by David Eggleton (4419 char) A new special interest group is proposed within the Boston Computer Society to focus on software which encourages and supports individual self-development. Comments are invited on this draft statement of the scope of this topic. 4 BEYOND THE CLASSROOM .................. by Charles Findlay (5088 char) The new workplace environment requries a different way of thinking about technology for training. 5 ELECTRONIC DEMOCRACY (Part III) ........... by Dave Hughes (9238 char) Dave Huges' ideas about the use of computer conferencing to support the political process are continued in this issue. 6 ELECTRONIC DEMOCRACY (Part IV) ............ by Dave Hughes (9902 char) 7 ELECTRONIC DEMOCRACY (Comments) ........... by Don Strauss (7859 char) Don Strauss comments on "Electronic Democracy" and suggests some new ways of thinking about citizen participation in govenrmnet. 8 MEMBERSHIP FORM ENA NETWEAVER Volume 3, Number 11, Article 2 November 1987 ENA Update by Lisa Carlson CALL FOR IDEAS ++++++++++++++ ENA Conference May 12-15, 1988 Phildelphia, PA, USA You are invited to submit *our* ideas for ENA's next f-t-f conference! suggestions for topics nominations for speakers proposals for workshops ideas for special events concepts for online participation You are also invited to volunteer to be part of the conference development team! We have started a planning topic, "May Conference", on NWI. A parallel conference is being set up on TWICS. More will follow. Send a message through your porter if you would like to be involved or call Lisa Carlson at (703) 243-6622. ALL are welcome. There will be a preliminary planning meeting to "walk the space" on Friday, November 13th in Philadelphia. For more information about this meeting, contact Stan Pokras online or at (215) 922-0227. We're very excited about the opportunity to get together f-t-f and share our ideas and experience. Mark your calendar now - details will be published in NETWEAVER as they develop. In this issue of NETWEAVER you can read more about the idea of the season, "electronic democracy." Parts III and IV of the Dave Hughes' writings on the subject (see Part I and II in the October issue) are here along with another article by Don Strauss with his comments on the subject. You can also participate in the development of concepts for a new special interest group on "Software for Self-Development" within the Boston Computer Society and find out how a corporate training specialist is using new technology in "Beyond the Classroom." Enjoy! ENA NETWEAVER Volume 3, Number 11, Article 3 November 1987 Software for Self-Development: A Work in Progress by David S. Eggleton Software for Self-Development is a distinct and unique category of applications. The applications within the category provide guidance and faciliation for selected aspects of "good practice" (in self-development? or of ANY good practice? I think it depends -- Yes, if the good practice will "rub off" on the user). They support efforts of individuals who are taking charge of their own long-term growth and development. The guidance these applications provide demystifies such activities as maintaining and increasing honest self-awareness and employing effective techniques in thinking, feeling, communicating, learning, and self-management. They facilitate healthy and rewarding reliance on these fundamental yet powerful activities. The best applications go further and facilitate improved integration of these activities. This integration parallels one of the worthy goals of self-development effort. These applications are functional tools. They do not establish or require a separate training environment. They do not leave adoption and implementation of the good practice to chance in an indifferent or hostile work environment. Rather, once they are installed, they are part of the work environment. Thus, they readily and directly empower users to employ and profit from the self-development practices that are meaningful and promising for them. They can turn "I really should" into "I did!" But for historical reasons, a special computing environment may be desireable, if not necessary, for their effective use. Like other tools, Software for Self-Development can be used again and again. Their use does not consume the value they hold for the user. In fact, quite the opposite is usually true: the more one uses them properly, the more useful and powerful they can become. This is especially true of the applications that elicit, store, and report information. A meaningful, up-to-date database is itself a tool. An application in the category of Software for Self-Development promises one or some of the following: - gives one new permission and "strength" to find or make one's own way through life/the world; - helps one know oneself; - helps one clarify and stay focused on personal goals and objectives; - helps one process feelings and thoughts so one can use them (not lose them) and/or - enables one to more effectively manage (plan, track, control, personal growth and development efforts; - helps one learn and understand; - acknowledges that many significant activities and performances must occur away from computers, and thus facilitates reflection upon and preparation for them. Software for Self-Development exists today. It is developed and published by various companies or it is developed by personal computer users who do not publish their work. Although I have not seen every application in the category as yet, I am confident that users of each popular computer (IBM & compatibles, Apple II series, Macintosh, Atari, Commodore) can avail themselves of one or more of these applications. My research shows that there are almost twenty products for the IBM PC that meet several of the above criteria. While there certainly are limits to the support a personal computer may give a person with aspirations, it is just as likely that the suport it can give now is worthwhile and that many of the limits will be redefined again and again by innovative software entrepreneurs. Software of such personal importance is very possibly what the home "computer" market has been waiting for. And when you stop and think about it, it is difficult to see the end of the socio-economic, even political, implications of such software. Thought tools that relatively few individuals have exploited in the past to achieve personal success can now be made useful to each person who can get near a computer. ------------- Author's note: Comments are invited from others interested in software for self-development ... and you are invited to participate in the development of a special interest group on this subject within the Boston Computer Society. Contact David at 20 Richardson Ave, Arlington, MA 02174. ENA NETWEAVER Volume 3, Number 11, Article 4 November 1987 Beyond the Classroom: New Directions in Learning and Work by Charles A. Findlay Early industrial training was modeled on the same rote, step-by-step process that took place in the classroom and the factories of the industrial era. These educational methods and ways of organizing work met the needs of a predominantly manufacturing society. However, the demands of a new rapid paced information society are causing business and industry leaders to challenge their old assumptions of training and the characteristics of the human resources required to succeed in the new workplace. Workers have difficulty keeping up with the changing demands of their jobs, and getting up-to-date information in a way that enables them to do their jobs effectively. One issue is business competetiveness, and the new balance of learning and work is of vital interest to everyone who seeks a sustained competetive advantage in an increasingly competetive business environment. Today, businesses are employing different methods to help cope with the need to rapidly learn new methods and ways of doing business. Traditional training methods are not really adequate for today's environment. They're necessary but not sufficient. Training, typically is looked at as an end-point. It's just the beginning of what could be going on in the workplace. As needs change, new alternatives are demanded. Some take us Beyond the Classroom. Some will utilize the classroom in new ways. Today, there is a demand for a range of learning environments to meet the increasing range of needs. We are exploring these now. We are looking at new ways of helping adult learners and new methodologies to meet the demands of an increasingly technological society. And we are beginning to see that technology can be a great help in all this. People are using the computer in new ways and finding that advanced communications and computer technology can create environments where the distinctions between work and learning breakdown, permitting new collaborations and, equally, more personal ways of learning. At Brown and MIT, these explorations are taking education in new and exciting directions where computers become tools for learning and for working - real educational partnerships. We are also beginning to see the use of electronic networks for distributed global learning environments. We are also beginning to see the need for new human relationships in an increasingly technological workplace ... new relationships between manager and worker, and as thse universities show, new collaborative relationships between teacher and learner. Clearly, we are in a time of transition and there are as yet no clearly defined solutions, no final answers. However, we do visualize that the computer-supported environment of the present will give way to a computer-integrated future where learning and working become less and less distinguishable. Learning becomes part of a person's ongoing job responsibilities - an active part of the job rather than a passive endeavor. The progress we are making today in artificial intelligence and information technology will help us make these new integrated environments possible. In the new industrial workplace, intelligent job aids will reduce the learning time and the complexity of the job for many workers. One form these job aids will take is that of an intelligent tutor embedded into software programs. In the new information work environment, physical environments may begin to look the same - the difference will be in the information handled. The information worker today is struggling to keep up with an ever increasing amount and diversity of information. In response to these increasing demands, individuals will begin to integrate intelligent database management systems into their work. The executive of tomorrow will have the opportunity to specify the way she wants to organize, store, and retrieve information needed to do a job. Personalized Decision Support tools will also help the future worker monitor and customize information appropriate to the person's specific learning and information requirements. Many of the specific details about the future are still speculative. But, one thing we can say for certain is this: our future still depends more on how we use information than on the delivery of the information itself. It is a wide-open time - a time for research, a time for reflection, a time for action, as together we collectively define what our vision of what learning and work can be. ------------- Author's note: Charles Findlay, Senior Instructional Designer at Digital Equpment Corporation, presented these ideas at a session at "Education For the 21st Century", a conference co-sponsored by the World Future Society Education Section and the Cambridge Center for Adult Education (as part of their 50th anniversary celebration). The session was called "Integrated Learning and Information Support Systems for the Information Age Worker." ENA NETWEAVER Volume 3, Number 11, Article 5 November 1987 Electronic Democracy Part III by Dave Hughes September 17 ============ If a Congressman - besides doing those costly mail-outs to individuals intheir district *also* put the bills and issues 'on line' locally, a whole lot more people could become involved. Then all that is needed are for some of those organizations like the League of Women Voters and similar public interest/issues local groups to set up terminals and printers in public places to help those who can't do it for themselves, get the information and *feedback* their opinions. A whole new role for non-partisan public-interest groups will have to emerge before this works like it can, should. The first 'loop-back' of the online debate over the County operations occured last night and this morning, which demonstrates how the online electronic democracy needs to be linked with other forms of public communications. Don MacDonald, KVOR morning talk-show host dialed in last night to Chariot and learned at log-in to Roger's Bar (the public issues section) about the 'County' conference and the verbatim committee report. He was *really* exited and said to me in private mail that he was going to dive in this morning to the county fee-collection flap, which one Commissioner managed to get supressed in the final report. So this morning at 7:15 he dialed back with his Macintosh, flipped on the printer, and printed out the 30 or so response-discussion about the fee collection, including the case law, statutes, tables of figures and most importantly, the comments made about all this by the 'public' online. He took it to the studio, went on the air at 9:00 am for his 2 hours talk show, READ ALOUD extracts of the print out, including the statute, the figures, and the comments by the man who put the stuff on line and expressed concern. Then invited call ins. About 50% of all the back-to back callers to the show took up on this issue. He asked me to call and say on the air how people could call state "home" offices for Members. There is much your local office could do to support your interest in being involved and communicating with your representative. Oh I am sure there is some very expensive online Legislative Service in DC. But this Republic will *not* move into the Information Age politically when 'public information' costs $50 an hour. And it does *not* have to cost that much. It is the economics of] 'government' at work here, not the economics of people. I costed out the capital investment required to set up a system like Chariot's in Denver for one man, using a PC, an optical reader, and a unix/xenix system with the capacity to hold 100% of all legislation going through the Colroado State Legislature, for online fee-charging accees. $20,000 total cost to capitalize the business, charges of from $5.00 an online document to $200 a month for 24 hour unlimited access by such entities as newspapers, lobbyists, organizations. Guranteed to have all daily amendments online within 2 hours of the close of the legislative day. The guy who would run it could make a living at it! I am radical enough in my online Electronic Democracy views that I beleive that the US government should set up terminals in Post Offices for free public use, that guarantees all US citizens free access to *all* public documents - up to some specified level each month, fee charging above that. [Continuing the earlier story] I was asked to call into the radio station, did, told everyone that all were welcome, gave out the number, and people are now dialing in across the town. And this afternoon Commissioner Meier asked for instructions on how to log in, would it be free or would he have to subscribe. Something to think about on this 200th Anniversay of the Consititution, when thinking about bbs and small conferencing systems and Electronic Democracy. Someone complained on a BBS in town which contained some passionate arguements during the last days of the Sales Tax campaign that 'only 30 people were reading this bbs'. The Sysop (who himself had been a County Commissioner before) reminded everybody that history tells us that the Federalist Papers were only distributed to 100 people during the American Revolution. It aint how many, but who. September 24 ============ Our little experiment in Electronic Democracy is at least forcing the decision-makers to think harder - even in the media. After getting a printout of the discussion of the County fee flap, by a reporter, a senior editor gulped and backed away from a story on one aspect because he was afraid the paper would be sued!! And one of the County Commissioners spent 18 minutes online this afternoon, just looking. Meanwhile the Public Health Director added to his spirited defense of his Department, against the recommendations of the committee. Now a little side note - that I'll bet is chronic in electronic debates. Three County Commissioners met in secret and read a print out of the whole conference, gotton offline by one of their people who did not identify himself as such when he came online. And they seem concerned and uncomfortable. How do you think I, as sysop, should handle the phenomonon of 'government employees/elected officials' in mufti online? The Pikes Peak Journal - small town (Manitou Springs - adjacent to Colorado Springs) newspaper, which is the political base for the Chairwoman of the Commission - Marcy Morrison is now online in the thick of things, because a developer-backed woman named Brooke Sunderland is going to run against her. Brooke has asked to talk to me. So I shall offer her the opportunity to come on line and debate Marcy online. Then the voters can decide for themselves. No guarantee they will. But then as it slowly dawns on candidates that online *everything* they have to say will be 'published' (which is never the fact in other media), they just might do it. But what's new? 5 years ago a man running for County Sheriff against two well heeled candidates, one the incumbant, came on my BBS and said he was going to announce his candidacy online - and tell the press to dial in to read all about it. (They did). I told him he would never win that election from a BBS because the base of callers was too small then. His answer was insightful. "I don't have much of a chance anyway. But this BBS is issues, not personalities and advertising oriented. I think there are some issues that need to be discussed. So I choose this forum." He was right. He lost, but the issues he raised online were picked up by monitoring candidates, and they argued them in public! Stay tuned! September 26 ============ In some hot voice exchanges the editorial director of a local television station, which carries a nightly editorial, and has lately been yammering away about the Budget report, has asked for a logon id and password to Chariot. That makes two newspapers, a radio station, and a television station that are into the political discussion area online. And today, when I was picking up my copy of "Teledemocracy" which started out this item, the wife of the book store owner who is the President of the Colorado Springs Symphony was asking about it, and now is going to come on line (as she said "Our symphony has a computer!") to 'correct all the misstatements in the press about the <County owned, and subsidized> Pikes Peak Center.' The Symphony depends upon the center, which is new, classy, and costs the taxpayers $230,000 a year in subsidies (so that groups can use this public auditorium at a reasonable rate). Since most on line are saying 'get rid of the center, its not mandated by state law!' the voice of the cultural community is needed to cast more light, than heat, on the issue. So I guess if we can have people arguing the pros and cons of county programs for ugly child abuse, and jail cells, and how much or whether people should pay to hear Mozart or watch Sleeping Beauty in the cultural center, we must be reaching a representative spectrum of voters. In a *very* quick glance at Chris Arterton's book "Teledemocracy" (you know, jump to the index to see if your favorite topic is there - computer conferencing, then read it while driving home) I see the same set of assumptions everyone has when speaking of the use of computer communications and political discussion. That he seems to be considering only those who can *directly* go online. And he discussed Source, EIES, Delphi and a few others. Not a mention of a grass roots BBS that I can see, which is too bad, because he cites the economics of online services as a big deterrent to their use in political democracy. I think he, as other, simply greatly underestimate the number and variety of devices - few of which will be called 'computers' - which everyone will be using. And already are - such as touch tone surveys, some with instant feedback to radio and tv figures online, who can, before the porgram is over, discuss the response. In any event, since some of you on here seem to think this discussion rather enlightening, any objections to my printing it out and sending it to Chris? [continued] ENA NETWEAVER Volume 3, Number 11, Article 6 November 1987 Electronic Democracy Part IV by Dave Hughes September 27 ============ We will have Electronic Democracies when terminals are popular in Washeterias! And when 'get out the vote' groups drop off terminals all over town. Since I have to read Arterton in bits and snatches I will report in bits and snatches. Only computer-telecom permit incremental book reports! Chris makes one very important decision at the outset of his book. While most who talk of electronic democracy see the end of our current forms of 'representative' governmnet, he thinks that whatever changes are made will only affect that form, not replace it with some form of populism! Good for him. Only place I differ is I think that the 'representatives' may themsleves be in control of some media. Like sysops. "Vote for XXXX. He will make a great Sysop while in Congress!" October 4 ========= I just got a copy of Sept 29th, Wall Street Journal where Bob Davis writes an article on 'Hobbyists as Lobbyists" Computer Users Are Mobilized to Support Host of Causes". Reports on the staggering response to the FCC $5 access charge ruling, and other uses of networks for 'tele-politics.' Also mentions the use by Peace Net, National Association of Manufacturers, Bruce Babbitt, and even my own City Councilman Wayne Fisher "In Colorado Springs, Colo Wayne Fisher says his underdog candidacy for city council took off when he posted his platform of local electronic bulletin boards and answered comments from voters electronically." (I am pleased he is willing to view it that strongly - since I referred the WSJ to him when they called me. And one never knows how an office holder views the relative significance of electronic democracy. End of the article is interesting: Predicts Roger Craver, a political fundraiser and computer enthusiast, "In five years, information utilities will be the conventional means of communications for organizing and political advocacy." Next Chapter of the County Budget Saga. After some rapid exchanges online, the Budget Committee and I caught a television station in a flim-flam! And got it reversed. The station that runs editorials and invites rebutals gave the Citizen's Committee and its work a hot blast. I requested a chance to rebut. Even sent in my 60 seconds of text. Which invited them - as well as the public - to dial into the online discussions to get the *real* story, from the actors themselves, and not just the press. They choked on it. ALthough the FCC requires TV stations to respond to such requests an mine in 72 hours, they tried an end run and called a 'safe' committee member, *inviting}i* him to give an editorial on the air. Didn't tell him that there had been a hot blast by them at his Committee *or* that they had a prior request for a rebuttal. He took them at their word. Said he would call back and give them an answer. He checked with another committee member who was online in the county flap on Chariot and saw where I said I had asked for rebutal time. So - in swift online electoronic time - we huddled, and the member who was 'invited' to give an editorial called back the TV station's editorial director and chewed her out for what he viewed as an unethical journalistic act, said he wanted me to give what I wanted to give. So, caught in the act because online asynchrnous communications let we the 'public' keep tabs on things better than we could have otherwise, the TV station had to swallow hard, call me and offer me air time I will tape the editorial tomorrow morning. And even more people will dial in. Hmm. Maybe electronic 'vigilance' will keep more than government honest. October 5 ========= Now things are *really* heating up! Many things broke today almost too rapidly for me to keep up. While I was taping the rebuttal inviting all to dial in), the Commissioners in a set-up deal tried to further discredit the committee's work by dissolving it, letting the staff 'rebut' some of its more way out recommendations (while remaining silent on many unanswered questions of far greater moment.) The press, of course, dutifully reported on it on the 5 o'clock news. Twill be in the papers tomorrow. My rebuttal will run tomorrow evening - in which I call for the Committees work to be a beginning, not an end, to the review of the County review of operations. I will follow it up with a letter to the local editor, being even more specific. I will also write the Chairwoman of the County and request - on a floppy disk - the staff rebuttal of the original report. Which I will dutifully put on line, paragraph by paragraph paired off with the original entries. (I have already uploaded my 60 second editorial rebuttal to the original tv editorial which was taped and transcribed by a committee member). Of course in all this, I keep making the message - come on line and deal with the facts, the copies of the laws, the display of budgets, as well as the opinions as to what they mean. Television images fade, newspapers are thrown out, radio talk is forgotton. The online record remains...just a modem dial away...right through the next election. October 6 ========= Proof that it is getting serious. Call from a Commissioner "Ok now, talk me through the log on procedure again so I can see that discussion..." Even the candidates privately deplore the necessity of trivializing their campaigns by making everything fit the 10 second television-rejoinder length. Ultimately self defeating for the whole political process. And also to the point of the ability of the candidate organizing the debate around his or her own media - electronic - I spent an interesting hour at the County Courthouse today. Went there to pick up a copy of the 24 page staff 'rebuttal' to the 24 page Budget Committee report in order to put *it* online, juxtaposed against the committee recommendations. I knew something ws up when 3 of the 5 commissioners, and the county administrator came into the one commissioners office where I went, and launched into an *extended* discussion of what they had read 'online' and even barking at me for things I had said there. (It became immediately apparent that they were printing out *everything* and passing it around the county offices.) Everytime one of them started making an eloquent defense of their views and attacked something said online, I said "Put it online! Speak for yourself there - so that the PUBLIC can learn from the dialogue. I am not a Reporter." Passions are running high on this one. Since comments I have made in the conference are being attacked by BOTH county officials AND committee members I must be doing something right. It is clear they got the point - if you want the discussion of your operations carried out to the point of resolution, consensus, or 'agree to disagree' (and then vote) then go online and say all you have to say. Everyone gets heard. In detail. On the issues, facts, authorities. So I said "Say, can you give me this 24 pages on a floppy disk?" Everybody scrambled and in 15 minutes the County Administrator rushed in with a floppy disk. (I didn't have the heart to tell them they gave me a Dec Displaywriter formatted disk - which I can't easily read in ascci off an MSDOS machine, but I will solve that, and teach em what ascii is.) So now they get *their* views out, in full text. After going on the 5:30 news in a 60 second editorial-rebuttal - in which I said "Fortunatley technology permits us to be discussing these matters on computer bulletin-boards all over town" - I got calls asking for the modem number. And the Committee member who did one depth analysis - which was boiled down to a one paragraph recomendation in the report, now wants to upload his sub-committee report where all the justifying meat is. While the County Commissioners 'fired' the Budget Committee yesterday, the debate over the budget has just begun. And I had to restrain myself from smiling when I saw that the elected county officials are taking this *very* seriously. And now know they are wlecome - yeah expected - to participate, if they want their viewpoints to get as full an airing as that of the critical public. October 7 ========= Beautiful, proper use of this medium in the controversy today. Dr. Muth, in response to a question about the County Health Budget and how it compares with other Counties in Colorado, took the time to prepare, and upload two *tables* comparing 10 counties on a per capita, percentage, and absolute basis. Shows his Department is quite economical. Also displayed the average salary for his professionals. Now is getting remarks like 'Your staff is underpaid" etc. Complete turnabout in the initial 'cut our taxes' attitude. Ugly, improper use of the medium -- I was at an affair tonight where the Governor attended, thus drew a pretty politically savy crowd. Woman came up to me and said "I hear that Commissioner Meier is dialing up a bulletin board in town and slandering the County Clerk and Recorder" I said "I am sure it is my BBS he is dialing up, but he hasn't make a single comment about the Clerk and recorder. She said, well the Clerk has her Lawyer reading it so she can sue for slander. Ha! Next thing we will all be in court trying to get a Judge to log on..... But the *real* point came out. She said "His own Party (Republican) is going to take care of him for that." I retorted "You had better dial in and read for yourself what is being said, rather than listen to rumors." She said "I think I will. We now have a modem." Glad to have her -she is the Chairwoman of the Planning Commission! Another agency online! --------- Author's note: This discussion is still continuing hot and heavy and chances are it will be of significant interest in this election year. ENA NETWEAVER Volume 3, Number 11, Article 7 November 1987 Electronic Democracy - Comments by Don Strauss [note: Don wrote a series of comments in response to material in a discussion on "electronic democracy" which included Dave Hughes (see his remarks in the October and November issues of NETWEAVER) and others. Don was good enough to give us permission to reprint them here.] I have now read through all of the comments in DCMETA 121 and 153 on "Electronic Democracy." It is every bit as exciting as you claimed and I am very grateful to you for [helping me to get it] Now, as promised, here are some observations: *-*-*-*-*-*-* General: This is the best account of electonically assisted participatory democracy that I have seen. I wonder how many (if any) other examples there are. What a great service it would be to indentify all of the current on-going examples, and to link them up so that they could exchange experiences and brain storm improved strategies. If this were ever done, I would sure like to be a participant/lurker. Qubes: I have recently spoken with top officials of both Qube and the New York Times (the Times now owns interactive-TV capability in several communities in southern New Jersey). From what they told me, I think that Dave Hughes' analysis of their failure in participatory democracy is quite accurate. In addition, both of my sources told me that they were also afraid of pushing it further for fear of being accused of trying to influence public policy through a medium that is now considered elitist. For this reason, both corporations have decided not to push political use, but rather to extend interactive-TV use for commercial purposes. If it becomes generally accepted there, then they may try to reenter the political field. I conclude from this that the idea of participatory democracy can and will only be promoted by individuals like Hughes, not by the large commercial networks or other conventional media. Anonymity: I was interested in the many comments on this subject. It is indeed a complicated one. Our democratic "culture" stresses the secret ballot. On the other hand, Hughes and Lisa Carlson (among others) tell us from experience that anonymity on-line seems to degenerate the quality of discussion. As usual, Lisa strikes a constructive note when she suggests that a variety of techniques should be tried depending upon the circumstances and the purposes of the discussion. "Real" names should probably be used for problem solving, with perhaps a monitored and edited anonymous account (to edit out irresponsible ad-hominem attacks) for those who want to test new ideas without attribution. But there must always be provisions for secret voting. Lobbying and Collaborating: I was particularly interested in the discussion introduced by Art Kleiner on lobbying, representative government, and collaborative problem solving. He viewed Hughes' activities as primarily adversarial lobbying. My own impression is slightly different. It seemed to me that Hughes genuinely tried to get different viewpoints and to promote unbiased education. However, he is a self-declared activist, and Kleiner raises an important issue. Ideally, all viewpoints and all citizens should be committed to collaborative procedures and behavior in a joint effort to reach consensus, accommodation, and a decision based upon the best available information. Yet, pragmatically, our democracy is adversarial, reflecting accurately our culture. As we continue to experiment, again drawing upon Lisa's wisdom, we need to recognize the various potential uses of electronic conferencing; among them being: * Lobbying, single-issue activism: Groups with a special point of view and interests will always join together to increase their strength through numbers, to refine arguments, and to promote as best they can their favored solutions. * Representative groups: These will pursue the adversarial methods that dominate our society, but will follow conventional order and due process in their debates. * Collaborative problem solving groups: This relatively new concept for reaching decisions are composed of individuals who assemble to solve a defined and recognized problem, seeking first to understand the issues before "leaping to conclusions". The objective is to invent better solutions, not to push an already reached conclusion. Each of the above conference configurations has its own "validity". The important thing, it seems to me, is to have them clearly labelled, and not to permit, for example, a lobbying group to masquerade as a collaborative one. Again, ideally, each new issue requiring a democratic decision should at least begin with the collaborative configuration. Then, as the issues become better understood, different groups might coalesce and appoint representatives to defend their interests. Finally, as the time for a vote/decision approaches, open lobbying will surely be demanded and practiced. But if such adversarial behavior and processes follow a collaborative attempt to understand, then the quality of the debate should be of "higher quality", and so should the ultimate decision. It seems to me that some such goals might be adopted by those of us seeking to develop this medium. Each of the above different kinds of electronic conferencing would require different procedures, different styles of moderating, and different rules for admitting participants. Many other kinds of conferencing will surely be developed with further experience and experimentation. How many and who: Should electronic conferencing be for the decision- makers alone, for all who are willing to participate, or for the whole electorate? These are fundamental questions. Dave Hughes' experiments began with numbers with which we are all familiar --- usually well under 50. But as his "constituency" increased, the numbers grew rapidly and, by the end, they reached over 300 and are still growing. How many can this medium accommodate and still retain a high quality of participation? What procedures can we invent to accommodate the ultimate thousands, even millions, that must be the goal of genuine partticipatory democracy? I have no quick answers, but I suggest that they surely must be found in the creative use of Hughes' notion of "multi-modes" - a mixture of many different media and procedures. Eventually, a combination of TV and computer conferencing must be introduced. Apathy and participation: Throughout the comments in DCMETA 121, the problem of citizen apathy was reaised. Hughes' energy and ingenuity first galvanized a small number of individuals in a small community, but this kind of leadership is surely much more difficult to pursue in larger cities, and certainly nationally. Elsewhere I have speculated on the use of a "drafted electorate", calling upon the precedence of the more familiar procedure of drafting citizens for jury duty. If you wish, and still have patience after reading all of this, I could download an article of several pages which I have titled A DEMOCRATIC FANTASY. In it I describe a specific decision reached in the year 2087. Five percent of the eligible electorate are drafted into a "citizens' decision- making corps". Their employers are directed to give them one day a week release time for this citizen duty. They are then involved in a combination of F-T-F and electronic conferencing until they, some 12 months later, have worked their way through a compex issue to a concensus decision. Well, I can dream, can't I? ------ Author's note: Don Strauss is President Emeritus of the American Arbitration Institute and has rich experience working in the area of conflict resolution and participatory democratic processes. MEMBERSHIP FORM On April 14, 1985, at the closing of The First Intersystem Electronic Networking Symposium, a new organization came into being: the Electronic Networking Association. The purpose of this association is to promote electronic networking in ways that ENRICH individuals ENHANCE organizations and BUILD global communities. You are invited to become a member. 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