[comp.society.futures] FidoNet and digital anarchism

evans-ron@CS.Yale.EDU (Ron Warren Evans) (11/23/88)

GENERAL:
I've been following the discussion of revolutions and Fidonet.  For years now
I have had access to both BITNET and the InterNet on my school computers, so
I never was too concerned with Fidonet, but now I am leaving school.  I never
was able to figure out how to send mail on Fido.  I also see that Fidonet is
connected to InterNet now (when I first learned this, my brain exploded), and
I see that some FidoNet users are receiving netnews.

TO FIDONET READNEWS USERS:
What I want to know is: is netnews free on your system, or a for-pay arrangement
?  Is it easy to access?  Where can I find a similar system near the Boston
area?  I may be using PC Express (or whatever that service is called where one
can access distant computers for $25/mo), so distance may not be a problem,
but it would be nice to have a local account.

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
I really am interested in FidoNet,
and not just for personal reasons (i.e. cheap netnews), although this is a
factor.  I have been especially fascinated with Fido since I read about it
in OMNI a couple of years ago...... I might even like to start my own Fido node
someday, and I have friends who feel the same way. Digital anarchism is where
it's at. In fact, I understand the creator of FidoNet was an anarchist.

BTW:
Does anyone know anything about the network facility the Green party was trying
to start a few years ago?

AN ANECDOTE:
I have a friend who is advisor to a group of SubGenii at a large university. He
got them their own house (as a "special interest group"), and wired them up
with their own LAN.  Soon, their LAN will be linked to the campus network, my
friend tells me, and then the full-force info barrage begins........
I would like to see special-interest groups have their own media environments,
as the SubGenii I mentioned did.  I understand that FidoNet users can have
conferences; can these be called by any user, or only by sysops?  Moreover,
can these conferences extend across the net, or are they only local?
Some of the most valuable conversations I have ever had have occurred on
Relay (a BITNET conferencing system), and I would like others to have that
opportunity too.


PEACE...........................................................................

Ron Warren Evans
a.k.a. His Pontification the Irrev. St. Ron "Good" Evans the Second Draft, Wi.D.
       Head Saint of the ParadoX OrthodoX Church
       Ko-Direktor of the Greater Erisian Ekumenikal Kouncil (GEEK)
       Fourfather [sic] of the Y Nomic Club
evans-ron@cs.yale.edu or evaronw@YALEVM.BITNET
TinFoil on Relay; Evan de Potiron in the Society for Creative Anachronism

doug@isishq.FIDONET.ORG (Doug Thompson) (12/02/88)

 
 RWE>From: evans-ron@CS.Yale.EDU (Ron Warren Evans) 
 
 RWE> 
 RWE>GENERAL: 
 RWE>I've been following the discussion of revolutions and Fidonet. 
 RWE> For years now 
 RWE>I have had access to both BITNET and the InterNet on my school 
 RWE>computers, so 
 RWE>I never was too concerned with Fidonet, but now I am leaving 
 RWE>school.  I never 
 RWE>was able to figure out how to send mail on Fido.  I also see 
 RWE>that Fidonet is 
 RWE>connected to InterNet now (when I first learned this, my brain 
 RWE>exploded), and 
 RWE>I see that some FidoNet users are receiving netnews. 
 RWE> 
 RWE>TO FIDONET READNEWS USERS: 
 RWE>What I want to know is: is netnews free on your system, or a 
 RWE>for-pay arrangement 
 
Short answer: it is quite possible to run both a fidonet and uucp 
site on one machine. Thus anything and everything that is 
available to either, is available to both. I'm doing it. With DOS. 
 
In uucp this is known as isishq, in fido, this is known as 
1:221/162. It's the same box. 
 
Long answer: it's taken several years to develop this capacity 
and there are still some problems with it. If you want to connect 
to my box (using TB modem) I'd be happy to oblige.  
 
Otherwise, you're on your own mate.  
 
Now, to the several dozen people who have written me direct 
regarding cheap link ups to uucp and usenet, my apologies. I'm 
overwhelmed and totally and completely busy. I hope to post 
something of use in the near future, to answer 100 questions all 
at once. 
 
I've only got one body and one brain, and only two hands. There 
are only 24 hours in the day and I can't keep up with the flood 
in my mailbox lately. 
 
This is the revolution and it seems like I've just stumbled into 
it.  
 
But yes, you can do it. Leastways *I* don't seen to be having any 
problem doing it. (other than the volume of mail, that is) 
 
=Doug 


--  
 Doug Thompson - via FidoNet node 1:221/162
     UUCP: ...!watmath!isishq!doug
 Internet: doug@isishq.FIDONET.ORG