cwyatt@ascella.usc.edu (Christopher Wyatt) (03/03/88)
Alt.cyberpunk was the only reason I even began reading USENET newsgroups.
The concept is good and will eventually prove itself worthy. The current
problems with the group can be overcome - simply ask people to limit
their ramblings (such as this one) to the overlying themes of cyberpunk.
I think some of us have only been exposed to "Brazil" and L.A. Times
articles on people like Gibson. This newsgroup, therefore, can become
an educational forum, as it were, concerning the themes it was founded
to represent.
Listen people, to put it rather bluntly, junk food and clothing have
little to do with the major concerns of true cyberpunk. Once again,
I think someone should surmise what "cyberpunk" implies:
Technology (people developing and using it) out of control...
The illogical, inhumane, progress of our species.
The pessimistic fear that mankind might already be the slave of its own
creations. (What would I do without an ATM card at my Bank?)
Possible reconciliations between man and his creations (artful uses of
technology) before "it's too late," whatever that means.
A broad base of technocrats controlling the future without philosophical
debates taking place.
Whoever posted the message declaring cyberpunks are people who just don't
care anymore, mainly because there's no use in caring, apparently thinks
Big Science is too big to control - I don't agree.
That's what this newsgroup is all about - a debate, an exchange of ideas,
and the slight hope we can help each other avoid Big Science a little
longer, if not forever.
I don't care about tie-dyed shirts and twinkies. Mankind itself is more
important.
Thank you for your time....
Christopher Scott Wyatt Student Oriented Software
922 E. Cambridge 3296 S. Mooney Blvd.
Visalia, CA 93277 Suite # 148
Visalia, CA 93277
So what if God exists? I'm here to help mankind, not God...gorin@mit-amt.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Amy Gorin) (03/05/88)
In article <7359@oberon.USC.EDU> cwyatt@ascella.usc.edu () writes: >That's what this newsgroup is all about - a debate, an exchange of ideas, >and the slight hope we can help each other avoid Big Science a little >longer, if not forever. ... >I don't care about tie-dyed shirts and twinkies. Mankind itself is more >important. ... >So what if God exists? I'm here to help mankind, not God... Gag me with a Cattle Prod. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ARPA: gorin@media-lab.media.mit.edu * Buy in, Log on, Work out. UUCP: [mit-eddie!]mit-amt!gorin *
ansley@sunybcs.uucp (William Ansley) (03/06/88)
In article <7359@oberon.USC.EDU> cwyatt@ascella.usc.edu () writes: [...] > >I don't care about tie-dyed shirts and twinkies. Mankind itself is more >important. [...] >Christopher Scott Wyatt Student Oriented Software >922 E. Cambridge 3296 S. Mooney Blvd. >Visalia, CA 93277 Suite # 148 > Visalia, CA 93277 More important than tied-died shirts, sure. But, mankind more important than TWINKIES! Come on! You may notice there is no 8-> above. I know a few people I would consider more important than any sort of material possesion, but I wouldn't give a twinkie for mankind in the abstract (and I don't even like twinkies). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "That would be some twinkie!" - Ghostbusters --------------------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Ansley, Computer Science Graduate Student uucp: ..!{ames,boulder,decvax,rutgers}!sunybcs!ansley internet: ansley@cs.buffalo.edu bitnet: ansley@sunybcs.bitnet [or: ansley%cs.buffalo.edu@relay.cs.net, or: ansley@buffalo.csnet]