[alt.cyberpunk] cyberpunk humor

brad@pheasant.cs.utexas.edu (blumenthal @ home with the armadillos) (04/09/88)

So, here's a question in a lighter vien.  Does anyone else out there
have any recommendations for cyberpunk humor (no, I don't think that's
oxy-moronic).  To get things started, I'll nominate "We're All Bozo's
on This Bus" by the Firesign Theatre.  It definitely has high-tech
motiffs (if you call Tenex and MAC Lisp high-tech :-); it includes a
Big Brother-esque future world; and it has a cowboy-like hero.

doug@eris (Doug Merritt) (04/10/88)

In article <11170@ut-sally.UUCP> brad@pheasant.cs.utexas.edu (blumenthal @ home with the armadillos) writes:
> [...] "We're All Bozo's
>on This Bus" by the Firesign Theatre.  It definitely has high-tech
>motiffs (if you call Tenex and MAC Lisp high-tech :-); it includes a
>Big Brother-esque future world; and it has a cowboy-like hero.

What's the definition of cyberpunk, anyway? I had thought that it
included something like Gibson's cyberspace, not just high tech plus
grim surroundings, like Blade Runner.

	Doug Merritt		doug@mica.berkeley.edu (ucbvax!mica!doug)
			or	ucbvax!unisoft!certes!doug

brad@pheasant.cs.utexas.edu (blumenthal @ home with the armadillos) (04/10/88)

>What's the definition of cyberpunk, anyway? I had thought that it
>included something like Gibson's cyberspace, not just high tech plus
>	Doug Merritt		doug@mica.berkeley.edu (ucbvax!mica!doug)

Well, we've hashed this up recently, but I wasn't under the impression that
cyberpunk necessarily required the "consesual hallucination" (I love that term)
notion of cyberspace.  Even if it did, I would argue that the amusement park
world in "...Bozo's..." comes close:  it's an environment that reflects the
underlying organization of a high-tech, yet somewhat grim, construct-oriented
society, and it requires a certain amount of cooperation from its non-
indigenous inhabitants (Case cum Worker as opposed to Wintermute cum Artie 
Choke).  

But let's not get too sidetracked here; I really do want to know if anyone
else sees any cyberpunk humor out there.  It's bound to be somewhat black
humor, but I guess I'm easily amused.

Take care,
brad

rpw3@amdcad.AMD.COM (Rob Warnock) (04/11/88)

Well, the cover blurbs claim that Rudy Rucker's two novels "Software"
and "Wetware" are "cyberpunk", though I disagree. (Basic background is
that robots on the moon escape their Asimovian programming, become an
independent form of life, and eventually start competing with humans.)
Still, they have a certain slapstick humor, and the future they portray
of the humans left on Earth has its grim/sick aspects....

So call it borderline cyberpunk humor.

(Hmm, better graph that:	humor
				  \___cyberpunk
					  \___borderline  )


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