[comp.ai.neural-nets] VIBRATIONS ANALYSIS USING NEURAL NETS

raj@utkux1.utk.edu (Rajendra Patil) (06/16/91)

Hi n-net world:

Few months back there was a post related to neural net usage for
vibration analysis of rotating machine, this post is related. 

We (3) have been working on this for last few months. Two of the members
are using classifier approach to recognize fault spectrum of the
machine. We have some arguments and I hope someone could tell us  
their views.

The objective is to develop NN based system to diagnose faults in the
rotating machine (for now basic faults).

I say that classifier approach though feasible, is not practical for
following facts.

To train a classifier we will need reliable data from the 
machine. Classifier trained on data from one machine may not classify
the spectral patterns from other machine due to difference in
environmental, operating, and physical conditions.

Collection of data under different faults with different degrees of
severity is not feasible for training purpose.

Training a classifier is done based on the complete geometrical shape of
the spectra and not on the feature. Fault in rotating machine is
indicated very specifically in the spectrum and not by the complete
spectrum. 

What happens if the training data collection setup has different 
parameters, gain, bias, filters, sensor locations then the testing data
collection setup. The spectral signatures under the same faults will be
significantly different. The classifier will not work.

This is like 100 new cars of the same type used for 1 year are to be
diagnosed. Classifier approach says that pick up any car, simulate the 
faults, collect data, train a classifier and expect this classifier to
diagnose rest 99 cars used under different conditions. 

The assumption that all the machine are in same operating, environmental
and physical condition is not practical. Machine on first floor will
have different spectral signature as compared to machine on ground floor
under the same fault condition.

All this suggests that, for a classifier system to work reliably for vibration
diagnostics purpose, take a machine, simulate different faults with
different degree of severity, record the data acquisition parameters, 
train the classifier neural net for days (large data), and use it to
test the same machine with same operating, environmental, physical and 
data acquisition setup parameter conditions. This whole thing is not 
practical.

I have a feeling that above approach is wrong for a problem like
vibrations. What else can be tried? ( I am working on connectionist 
expert systems and works good). What I need is your views about the 
classifier approach (will work, or not and Why?). I am having a hard
time convencing my fellow members that it is not practical.  
 
Comments about anything said above are very much appreciated.

Regards.
Raj