rmyers@net1.ucsd.edu (Robert Myers) (08/26/88)
Reply-to: rmyers@net1.ucsd.edu (Robert Myers)
I just read in the August 15 issue of "digital review", front page,
that "Later this month, DEC is scheduled to release a new version of
its Ultrix operating system ..."
Of course I immediately called a DEC sales department, only to hear
the person on the other end say, "What's Ultrix?." Fine, I called
a VMS oriented sales department, no problem. Now this IS NOT meant
as a flame, what I really want to know is who I should call to get
pricing and availability information.
Is there anyone out there associated with DEC, or someone else "in
the know" that can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance,
Robert Myers
INTERNET: rmyers%net1@ucsd.edu
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I can answer this one. Ultrix v3.0 (known as v2.4 in a previous
life) was announced earlier this week. Following is some
information circulated internally describing it. I am trying to
get a machine readable copy of the SPD. If I succeed, I'll post
that, too.
-- Art Z.
ULTRIX-32 Version 3.0 PAGE 2
ULTRIX-32 is a major new release that adds support for new devices and
systems and complies with all major industry standards including POSIX
(IEEE 1003.1) and the Level 0 Application Environment Specification (AES)
issued by the Open Software Foundation.
Key Features:
o compliance with the following industry standards:
- Open Software Foundation (OSF) Application Environment Specification,
Level 0
- IEEE 1003.1 (POSIX)
- X/Open Common Application Environment as defined in the X/Open
Portability Guide, XPG2
- The Operating System FIPS recently submitted by the National Bureau of
Standards
- X Window System Version 11
- System V Interface Definition (SVID) Release II, Volume I
o NFS Clusters
- Total of 16 devices (VAX CPUs and HSC 70s)
Example: several VAX CPUs, 1 HSC70 with 32 RA90 disk drives providing
a data base of over 38 gigabytes
- Communication over a dual path 70 megabit link with NFS protocols
- CI Port Class Driver Support
o The addition of Berkeley 4.3BSD features including the BIND Name Domain
Server
o Support of the VAX 6210/6220, VAX 8810/8820
o Communiation software under TCP/IP, NFS, IBM 2780/3780 Remote Job Entry
emulation and the LAT/Telnet Gateway
o VAX C for ULTRIX Systems
o Over 200 commands and utilities
Available products include:
- VAX Fortran for ULTRIX Systems
- VAX LISP for ULTRIX Systems
- Over 1,000 third-party products
- DECnet-SNA ULTRIX 3270 Terminal Emulator
Deliveries begin in the Fall of 1988.
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DECnet-ULTRIX V3.0 PAGE 3
DECnet-ULTRIX software enables communication among networked systems from
Digital that use the DNA Phase III/IV protocols and systems from other
vendors that use the Internet (TCP/IP) protocols. Thus, an ULTRIX System
will serve as a gateway between DECnet/OSI and TCP/IP-based networks.
Key features:
- task-to-task communications, network virtual terminal, remote file
transfer, mail, network-wide resource sharing and management as defined by
DNA protocols.
- the functionality needed to provide a DECnet-Internet Gateway for
semi-transparent, bi-directional access between DECnet and Internet (TCP/IP)
systems
- DECnet Phase IV end-node implementation of Digital Network Architecture
(DNA) for both the ULTRIX-32 operating system and ULTRIX Worksystem Software
Deliveries begin in the fall of 1988.
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VMS/ULTRIX Connection V1.0
This is a VMS layered software product that provides VMS services to UNIX
clients. This product includes the Internet (TCP/IP) networking
protocols running on VMS and the Network File System (NFS) server software
running on VMS. The importance of this product is that it allows any single
VMS system or a large VAXcluster system to act as an NFS server to a large
number of UNIX-based workstations. For the first time Digital provides
UNIX-based workstations with access to the high availability data management
features of a VAXcluster system such as shadowing.
Key Features: V1.0 support
- Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)
- Internet Protocol (IP)
- User Datagram Protocol (UDP)
- Address Resolution Protocol (ARP)
- File Transfer Protocol (FTP)
Future versions will support mail (SMTP) and remote login (Telnet)
protocols.
Prerequesite Software required:
- For the VMS server, VMS 4.7 or V5.0, or MicroVMS V4.7
- For the UNIX client, any UNIX-based system which supports NFS V2.0 and the
networking protocols specified by the DDN (Defense Data Network) RFCs,
including ULTRIX-32 V2.2 or later and ULTRIX Worksystem Software V1.1 or
later.
Deliveries begin in the fall of 1988.
**********************************************************************
ULTRIX Mail Connection V1.0 PAGE 4
This product enables ULTRIX systems to directly access Digital's MAILbus via
the VMS Message Router. This provides access to all MAILbus gateways and
supported user agents. ULTRIX mail Connection V1 also provides an enhanced
ULTRIX Mail user agent and transfer agent. This product allows users to
exchange mail with mail users under the following mail systems and gateways:
- All-In-1
- VMS Mail
- The IBM gateway knowns as MR/S, or SNADS
- The IBM gateway known as MR/P, or Profs
- The X.400 gateway
Prerequesite software:
- For the ULTRIX system, ULTRIX-32 V2.2 or later or ULTRIX Worksstem
Software V1.1 or later version. Either operating system must include
DECnet-ULTRIX V2.2 or later version
- The VMS system must include VMS Message Router V3 or later version
Deliveries begin in the fall of 1988.
**********************************************************************
Let me know if you have any more questions. -- Art Z.
]animal@ernie.UUCP (Alan R. Silverman) (09/08/88)
Reply-to: animal@ernie.UUCP (Alan R. Silverman) For some sales help for DEC products, specifically Ultrix, I would recommend getting hold of Wyle Labs, 3000 Bowers Ave, Santa Clara Ca. 95051. Ph # 408 727-2500. We bought some Wyse terminals from Tom Gelbach, who was very knowlegable, professional, and courteous. Thats a hell of a lot more than I can say about any of those D-Bags at DEC! Alan Silverman SysAdmin NEC America R&T Software Dev. Ctr. San Jose (408)922-3814
avolio@decuac.dec.com (Frederick M. Avolio) (09/26/88)
Reply-to: avolio@decuac.dec.com (Frederick M. Avolio) What I want to know is.... did you sales rep really say "What's ULTRIX"? Okay, even something close? If so, could you under private e-mail send me the same of that sales representative please? (Anyone else reading this -- feel free to do the same thing.) I want customer account (that's you) and Digital rep who is breain dea<d when it comes to UNIX and Digital. Thanks Fred
animal@ernie.NECAM.COM (Alan R. Silverman) (09/26/88)
Reply-to: animal@ernie.NECAM.COM (Alan R. Silverman) As I read this I realize I left out a portion or what I was replying to. Someone had asked for local third party vendors of DEC products. > > For some sales help for DEC products, specifically Ultrix, I would > recommend getting hold of Wyle Labs, 3000 Bowers Ave, Santa Clara > Ca. 95051. Ph # 408 727-2500. > We have a MV II that was purchased from DEC on the East Coast that came with Ultrix. I noticed when setting this puppy up that it came with a VMS Driver for the TS05 tape drive.....huh? We were charged a few hundred dollars for that worthless peice of S/W. Well, that request for refund went unanswered. We let it go at that. It seemed to me that it simply was time to search for alternative sources. > Thats a hell of a lot > more than I can say about any of those D-Bags at DEC! >
grr@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (George Robbins) (12/23/88)
Reply-to: grr@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (George Robbins) Well, my Ultrix 3.0 upgrade tapes finally showed up today. From reading the release notes, it doesn't look too bad, the worst pain being that DEC has decided not to support my perfectly good RM80 system disk. I mean, really it works great and is small enough I can dedicate it to this function without feeling guilty about wasting space. Oh well. Has anybody out there tried this 3.0 stuff? It's been awful quiet compared to when 2.2 came out. Hard to tell if it's a problem with the news group or just inactivity. I'd really like to see the group be made unmoderated so we could get the propagation delay down to a day or two... [ OK -- you're right. I'll ask the Powers That Be to do that. -- Art Z. ]
avolio@decuac.dec.com (Frederick M. Avolio) (12/31/88)
Reply-to: avolio@decuac.dec.com (Frederick M. Avolio) Re: 3.0 3.0 is very painless. I am speaking as a user now, not as a DECie. I mean, I have to use the stuff.. Installed on all of our workstations and on our uucp/internet/easynet gateway machine. No sweat. Re: RM80's. I know they are not supported. But they work. Not supported means that they wil not be tested on new releases. DECUAC -- the above-mentioned machine -- has 2 RM80s among other things. Fred