kovar@popvax.harvard.edu (115800@David C. Kovar) (07/11/89)
Good day, I've inherited two Vax 8200s, a VAXstation 2000, no software contract, and no manuals to speak of. So, I've a few questions: 1) What type of terminal can the 260 monitor emulate? I've been told that it acts like a hardcopy terminal until you toss a window manager on it. It certainly refuses to emulate a VT100 or anything reasonable. Any fix for this? 2) Is there some standard window manager that comes with 3.0 that will run on the 2000? Yes, I'm aware of DecWindows but it is not on the system. I really want to be able to use all this window real estate in some reasonable way. 3) Can a DECstation (not VAXstation) 2000 with a 33MB disk run Ultrix? I assume that if it can run Ultrix off of a local disk it could behave as my VAXstation does and boot off of some other machine. Thank you, in advance, for answering some very basic questions. -David C. Kovar Technical Consultant ARPA: kovar@popvax.harvard.edu Office of Information Technology BITNET: corwin@harvarda.bitnet Harvard University MacNET: DKovar Ma Bell: 617-732-1778 "It is easier to get forgiveness than permission."
avolio@decuac.dec.com (Frederick M. Avolio) (07/11/89)
In article <2195@husc6.harvard.edu> kovar@popvax.harvard.edu (115800@David C. Kovar) writes: > > I've inherited two Vax 8200s, a VAXstation 2000, no software contract, >and no manuals to speak of. So, I've a few questions: > What software is on these machines? >1) What type of terminal can the 260 monitor emulate? I've been told that > it acts like a hardcopy terminal until you toss a window manager on it. > It certainly refuses to emulate a VT100 or anything reasonable. Any > fix for this? No smarts, running a window manager with terminal emulator fixes this. (I am 90% sure of this) > >2) Is there some standard window manager that comes with 3.0 that will > run on the 2000? Yes, I'm aware of DecWindows but it is not on the > system. I really want to be able to use all this window real estate > in some reasonable way. What *is* on the system? 3.0 is a version of ULTRIX, but not the ULTRIX Worksystem Software (UWS). Standard X11 from MIT will work as well. You need some W/S S/W to be able to drive the graphics screen. >3) Can a DECstation (not VAXstation) 2000 with a 33MB disk run Ultrix? > I assume that if it can run Ultrix off of a local disk it could > behave as my VAXstation does and boot off of some other machine. The 33MB disk is too small to be used by the system, although you could use it for /tmp and swap (for example). You can run diskless. But as there is no such thing as a DECstation2000 so I am not sure to what you refer. Fred
D. Allen [CGL]) (07/18/89)
>>3) Can a DECstation (not VAXstation) 2000 with a 33MB disk run Ultrix? >The 33MB disk is too small to be used by the system, although you >could use it for /tmp and swap (for example). Although it is not recommended, you can actually squeeze Ultrix 3.0 onto a VS2000 with just a single RD32 (41MB). It works a little better if you first use chpt to increase the swap partition ("b") to, say, 10MB from the default 7MB: /dev/rrd0a Current partition table: partition bottom top size overlap a 0 15883 15884 c,f,h b 15884 36363 20480 c,d c 0 83203 83204 a,b,d,e,f,g,h d 31509 57371 25863 b,c,g e 57372 83203 25832 c,g f 0 0 0 a,c,h g 36364 83203 46840 c,d,e h 0 0 0 a,c,f The RIS network boot software quite rightly refuses to recognize the RD32 as a suitable system disk, so you have to drop out of the script and do the mkfs stuff for the disk by hand, then copy in the software you need. I don't like to wait for the setld installation, so I copy everything from a master host on the net that has the configuration I want. From the RIS miniroot I do "mount /dev/rd0a /mnt && cd /mnt && rsh masterhost sync ';' dump 0f - / | restore rf -" to get the root file system, and do a similar rsh for the /usr file system. I change the name of the machine in /etc/rc.local, remove or truncate extraneous log files and syserr files, touch up /etc/fstab if I need to, boot the new machine and rebuild the sendmail.fc file. I don't have room for the X software (we run MIT X), so I get it over NFS from the masterhost. Subset Status Description ====== ====== =========== ULTACCT030 installed Accounting Software ULTBASE030 installed Base System ULTINET030 installed TCP/IP Networking Utilities ULTNFS030 installed Network File System Utilities ULTUMAIL030 installed Extended (Berkeley) Mailer Filesystem Total kbytes kbytes % node kbytes used free used Mounted on /dev/rd0a 7439 4308 2388 64% / /dev/rd0g 21775 17672 1926 90% /usr 10240k swap configured 5668k used (1399k text, 0k smem) 4570k free, 1595k wasted, 2k missing avail: 7*512k 3*256k 1*64k 1*32k 3*16k 74*1k -- -IAN! (Ian! D. Allen) IDAllen@watcgl.UWaterloo.CA IDAllen@watcgl.Waterloo.edu Computer Graphics Lab University of Waterloo Ontario, Canada