evans@stsci.EDU (Ian Evans) (08/09/89)
We have just purchased 5 new DECstations 3100'sand are having a lot of problems trying to get Ultrix up and running. Can anyone suggest what we are doing wrong? Could we have a bad distribution? Or are we doing something silly? We are installing from TK50 onto an RZ55, and all the hardware checks out and completes its self-test successfully. We can install Ultrix V3.0/UWS V2.0 (both the supported and unsupported software) without any problems. We installed ALL of the options. The system then comes up with a two user license and the banner at boot time says Ultrix V3.0; however, looking in the configuration file shows a line defining the version as Ultrix V3.0a-FT1. This seems a little odd, especially considering the later behavior. We then install a capacity upgrade to 8 users. This goes OK, and them system comes up supporting 8 users. We then attempt to install the Ultrix 3.1/UWS 2.1 update. The first problem here is that our media and doc kit didn't include the Installation Guide and Release Notes mentioned in the cover letter. What we did was to do a /etc/setld -l /dev/rmt0h which seemed to work an gave us a list of options to install. We asked it to install ALL options. It proceeded, and then complained that it could not install the V3.1 diskless client support option because we had not installed the V3.0 version of this option. However, we had installed all the options off the V3.0 tape we have. I checked the contents of the V3.0 tape, and there was not an option of the specified name on the tape. Anyway, after completing this (and not having the V3.1 installation guide) we rebuilt the kernel and rebooted. This time the system came up and said "System Supports 8 Users", and then promptly died while starting the daemons saying "Login Limit Reached". When it finally came up all the way (without the daemons) we had a system with a login limit of 0. Root could log in on the console only, but that was all. We then tried reinstalling the 8 user license upgrade (and it said it installed successfully), but ended up with exactly the same situation. We are stuck. Any ideas from anyone who's been through this? Are we doing something utterly silly? For your information, the part numbers on the TK50's we are using are as follows: Ultrix WS V2.0 (RISC) SUPPORTED AQ-MM11A-BE Ultrix WS V2.0 (RISC) UNSUPPORTED AQ-MM12A-BE U-32 V3.1/UWS V2.1 (RISC) UPD AQ-NJ46A-BE Ultrix-32 V2.0 8USR TK50 AQ-JU87A-BE Any suggestions would be most helpful. Thanks, Ian Evans phone: (301) 338-4756 Space Telescope Science Institute internet: evans@scivax.stsci.edu 3700 San Martin Drive bitnet: evans@stsci Baltimore, MD 21218 span: scivax::evans
grr@cbmvax.UUCP (George Robbins) (08/10/89)
In article <704@stsci.edu> evans@stsci.EDU (Ian Evans) writes: > We have just purchased 5 new DECstations 3100'sand are having a lot of problems > trying to get Ultrix up and running. Can anyone suggest what we are doing > wrong?... > > We can install Ultrix V3.0/UWS V2.0 (both the supported and unsupported > software) without any problems. > > We then attempt to install the Ultrix 3.1/UWS 2.1 update. The first problem > here is that our media and doc kit didn't include the Installation Guide and > Release Notes mentioned in the cover letter. What we did was to do a > /etc/setld -l /dev/rmt0h which seemed to work an gave us a list of options > to install. We asked it to install ALL options. I think perhaps you don't want to install "all" the upgrade, rather just those things that have "UWS" in their names... Give it a try, and beat on DEC for the 3.1 release notes... Disclaimer: No 3100's (yet) and no UWS here. -- George Robbins - now working for, uucp: {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr but no way officially representing arpa: cbmvax!grr@uunet.uu.net Commodore, Engineering Department fone: 215-431-9255 (only by moonlite)
mellon@zayante.pa.dec.com (Ted Lemon) (08/12/89)
The main thing to be sure of is that you have the system in single user mode before you do the setld. Otherwise, a lot of running images don't get updated, to your system's detriment. _MelloN_
rusty@garnet.berkeley.edu (08/15/89)
In article <704@stsci.edu> evans@stsci.EDU (Ian Evans) writes:
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From: evans@stsci.EDU (Ian Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix,comp.sys.dec
Subject: HELP!! Problems Installing Ultrix on a DECstation 3100
Summary: It doesn't seem to work!
Date: 9 Aug 89 14:51:28 GMT
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore, MD 21218
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Anyway, after completing this (and not having the V3.1 installation
guide) we rebuilt the kernel and rebooted. This time the system
came up and said "System Supports 8 Users", and then promptly died
while starting the daemons saying "Login Limit Reached". When it
finally came up all the way (without the daemons) we had a system
with a login limit of 0. Root could log in on the console only,
but that was all. We then tried reinstalling the 8 user license
upgrade (and it said it installed successfully), but ended up with
exactly the same situation.
One of the things that is really stupid in Ultrix is that the N user
license stuff is tied to the quota system. Therefore, you must have
the line
options QUOTA
in your kernel configuration file. If you don't then you'll always
get the "Login limit reached" message if anybody other than root tries
to login. Look at the source to login and find where the string
"Login limit reached" message is being printed and you'll see what's
wrong.
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rusty c. wright
rusty@violet.berkeley.edu ucbvax!violet!rusty
chris@winsrf.dec.com (Chris Cordrey) (08/18/89)
In article <704@stsci.edu>, evans@stsci.EDU (Ian Evans) writes: > > We then attempt to install the Ultrix 3.1/UWS 2.1 update. The first problem > here is that our media and doc kit didn't include the Installation Guide and > Release Notes mentioned in the cover letter. What we did was to do a I am forwarding this apology/explanation on from ULTRIX Product Management. -chris --------------------------------- Digital Equipment Corporation has identified a problem of missing documentation in some ULTRIX-32 V3.1 and ULTRIX Worksystem Software V2.1 kits. The missing documentation consisted of the ULTRIX-32 V3.1 / UWS V2.1 Release Notes and Installation Guide. The kits that are affected are : QA-VYVAA-GZ ULTRIX-32 (Risc) Full 3.0/3.1 kit QA-VYVAA-WZ ULTRIX-32 (Risc) Update 3.1 kit QA-0JQAA-GZ UWS (Risc) Full 2.0/2.1 kit The affected ULTRIX kits were artificially delayed in manufacturing until the documentation was added to the kits. The missing documentation has been added to the affected products and all ULTRIX products are correctly shipping as of 8/9/89. For those affected kits that DIGITAL shipped to customers prior to the discovery of the problem, DIGITAL is compiling a list of customers, and is in the process of shipping out the missing documentation to those customers presently. DIGITAL thanks you for your patience, and apologizes for any problem caused by the missing documentation. ULTRIX Product Management
sinclair@aerospace.aero.org (William S. Sinclair) (08/26/89)
tape is needed for diskless support services installation. Did you try it with the regular installation on a system with a local hard disk?