[comp.unix.ultrix] sendmail.cf problems under Ultrix 3.0

mms@bnlux0.bnl.gov (Morris Strongson) (09/26/89)

    We have recently installed a DECStation 3100 with UWS 2.0/2.1 and Ultrix
3.0/3.1 running on it.  We were able to take the sendmail.cf file from our
VAX 11/780 (running Ultrix 2.0) and use it on the DECStation 3100, with only
changes to the name of the host itself.  We tried to run Ultrix 3.0 on the
VAX 11/780 using the identical sendmail.cf file that works under Ultrix 2.0,
and it hangs in local mail, as well as in trying sendmail -bt.  In both
cases, the command does nothing visible, and has to be aborted with a ^C.
If we use the generic 3.0 sendmail.cf, we can get local mail to work fine.
The problem is that we have such a complicated collection of networks and
special cases in the sendmail.cf, that we would like to carry it over to the
new system.  Has anyone come across this problem, or does anyone have any
suggestions?  All help is appreciated; thanks in advance.

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parker@zaphod.Berkeley.EDU (Ross Parker) (09/28/89)

I had the same problem with sendmail.cf. The file that I had working
just fine under Ultrix 2.x broke miserably under Ultrix 3.0. I ended
up calling DEC 'support' (if it can properly be called that...) and
was told 'we don't support non-standard sendmail config files'.

Well, come on, guys. I'm not asking you to debug my config files, all
I ask is that you don't piss around with things that worked just fine,
forcing me to put in hours of work reinventing the wheel. How many sites
out there are actually running the DEC standard config file??? How many
actually got broken by this change?

Peeved,

mjb@acd4.UUCP ( Mike Bryan ) (09/28/89)

In article <1814@eric.mpr.ca> parker@zaphod.Berkeley.EDU (Ross Parker) writes:

>Well, come on, guys. I'm not asking you to debug my config files, all
>I ask is that you don't piss around with things that worked just fine,
>forcing me to put in hours of work reinventing the wheel. How many sites
>out there are actually running the DEC standard config file??? How many
>actually got broken by this change?

Fortunately (?), we were running the standard sendmail.cf until just
recently on all our machines.  When I finally got approval to connect
us to the network, I had to start changing things around.  We have a
mixture of 2.3 and 3.0 systems here.  Our gateway is running 3.0.  I
modified the 3.0 .cf file to meet our needs, and then I modified it
just a little more for our non-gateway systems.

Currently, I'm running the same sendmail.cf on all machines, with just
a couple of differences on the gateway machine.  Either 2.3 will run
3.0 configurations (backwards compatible only?), or I'm fortunate
enough to not be utilizing any of the changed functionality portions.
Any info available on just what exactly changed between 2.3 and 3.0?

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ecf_hap@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU (Andrew Poling) (09/28/89)

In article <1814@eric.mpr.ca> parker@zaphod.Berkeley.EDU (Ross Parker) writes:
>
>I had the same problem with sendmail.cf. The file that I had working
>just fine under Ultrix 2.x broke miserably under Ultrix 3.0. I ended
>up calling DEC 'support' (if it can properly be called that...) and
>was told 'we don't support non-standard sendmail config files'.
>
>Well, come on, guys. I'm not asking you to debug my config files, all
>I ask is that you don't piss around with things that worked just fine,
>forcing me to put in hours of work reinventing the wheel. How many sites
>out there are actually running the DEC standard config file??? How many
>actually got broken by this change?

Why don't you just get the sources for sendmail5.61 and compile and use it?
Ultrix 3.0 is close enough to BSD4.2 with 4.3 networking that you can pretty
much type 'make' and be done.

That was my solution.  I did the same thing with BIND4.8 .


-Andy

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avolio@decuac.dec.com (Frederick M. Avolio) (09/29/89)

Well, I am certain that when I moved to 3.0 of ULTRIX we used the very
same sendmail.cf file that we had been using for ages.  The only change I
had to make was to modify the mailer definition for the Dmail (DECNET
Mailer).  If you'd like, I'd be happy to take a gander at the file, but 
won't be able to get to it for a week or so.

Fred