vaf@Valinor.Stanford.EDU (Vince Fuller) (07/14/90)
------ Are there any plans to make the device dependant portions of the DECwindows X11R3 server for the DS5000 with 2D accelerator available? I've become spoiled by X11R4 on a DS3100 and would like to run it on a new 5000PX system. Thanks, --Vince
grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) (07/15/90)
In article <10443@lindy.Stanford.EDU> vaf@Valinor.Stanford.EDU (Vince Fuller) writes: > > Are there any plans to make the device dependant portions of the DECwindows > X11R3 server for the DS5000 with 2D accelerator available? I've become spoiled > by X11R4 on a DS3100 and would like to run it on a new 5000PX system. I don't know what DEC has planned in this regard, but you should be able to run most of the X11R4 utilities and X11R4 based applications using the DEC supplied server, even if it is still based on X11R3 (or whatever). We do this now using UWS2.0 and a few X11R4 utilities and twm. -- George Robbins - now working for, uucp: {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr but no way officially representing: domain: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com Commodore, Engineering Department phone: 215-431-9349 (only by moonlite)
jg@crl.dec.com (Jim Gettys) (07/16/90)
I'd be surprised if anything happened before R5. In any case, the DDX conversion work is not yet complete, so nothing is likely to happen particularly soon. Remember that many(/most(?)) of the performance gains in R4 are already in our servers. All our DIX performance work was given back to MIT, and became part of R4 (along with large amounts of work at MIT, particularly to save memory; I don't mean to minimize the work done at MIT). I don't believe you'll be unhappy with what you have now for the server. About the only thing that won't work are applications that depend on the SHAPE extension. - Jim Gettys
vaf@Valinor.Stanford.EDU (Vince Fuller) (07/18/90)
In article <13218@cbmvax.commodore.com>, grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) writes: |> In article <10443@lindy.Stanford.EDU> vaf@Valinor.Stanford.EDU (Vince Fuller) writes: |> > |> > Are there any plans to make the device dependant portions of the DECwindows |> > X11R3 server for the DS5000 with 2D accelerator available? I've become spoiled |> > by X11R4 on a DS3100 and would like to run it on a new 5000PX system. |> |> I don't know what DEC has planned in this regard, but you should be able to |> run most of the X11R4 utilities and X11R4 based applications using the DEC |> supplied server, even if it is still based on X11R3 (or whatever). We do |> this now using UWS2.0 and a few X11R4 utilities and twm. |> |> -- |> George Robbins - now working for, uucp: {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr |> but no way officially representing: domain: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com |> Commodore, Engineering Department phone: 215-431-9349 (only by moonlite) That's sort of what I thought, too, until I started running into trouble with X11R4 applications and the DECWindows 4.0 server. For example, the program that I'm typing at right now (xrn) doesn't work quite right - there's no cursor, which makes it tough to keep track of the current place in the ariticle or newsgroup list, not to mention typing articles to post (R4 xterm's also seem to occaisionally lose the cursor...) Also, I'm not thrilled by the the thought of a server bloated by Display PostScript support, since I don't have a whole lot of need for Display PostScript at the moment. Thanks, --Vince
iglesias@orion.oac.uci.edu (Mike Iglesias) (07/20/90)
In article <10485@lindy.Stanford.EDU> vaf@Valinor.Stanford.EDU (Vince Fuller) writes: >That's sort of what I thought, too, until I started running into trouble with >X11R4 applications and the DECWindows 4.0 server. For example, the program that >I'm typing at right now (xrn) doesn't work quite right - there's no cursor, >which makes it tough to keep track of the current place in the ariticle or >newsgroup list, not to mention typing articles to post (R4 xterm's also seem >to occaisionally lose the cursor...) Also, I'm not thrilled by the the thought >of a server bloated by Display PostScript support, since I don't have a whole >lot of need for Display PostScript at the moment. There's a slightly modified xrn (called dxrn) on gatekeeper.dec.com in pub/DEC/dxrn.tar.Z. I don't know if it works better than xrn under DECwindows, but it might be worth a try. Mike Iglesias University of California, Irvine Internet: iglesias@orion.oac.uci.edu BITNET: iglesias@uci uucp: ...!ucbvax!ucivax!iglesias