[comp.unix.ultrix] Lost in the maze of Ultrix product numbers

D. Allen [CGL]) (09/14/90)

I have a pair of DS5400, some MVII/GPX, some VS2000, some VS3100, and
some VS3200.  I want to put Ultrix UWS 4.0 on them all, downloaded via
network MOP from either the MIPS or the VAX.  I don't need standalone
boot media.  What product numbers do I order to get just the TK50 setld
kits, without boot media?  I'm guessing that these will do what I want:

  QA-YL5AA-H5 ULTRIX WS TO SRV VAX
  QA-YL6AA-H5 ULTRIX WS TO SRV RISC

(Has DEC finally figured out how to support VAX and RISC subsets on the
*same* MOP server?  I managed to throw everything together under
Ultrix 3.1C here, and I can make both VAXes and MIPS machines serve,
but the 3.0 manual says it isn't possible.)

Now, having got the software, I need exactly one set of documentation for
UWS 4.0 and its underlying Ultrix 4.0.  What do I order, to get it all?
I've found "QA-0JQAK-GZ UWS FULL DOC KIT" ($6,036CDN), but that seems a
bit pricey for just the manuals.  It doesn't help that QA-0JQAA-GZ is
also called a FULL DOC KIT ($2,581CDN) and the people at DECdirect
were just as confused as I.

To confound matters, nobody knows *exactly* which documentation kits
are contained in which other kits, and some of the "Installation"
style kits that contain boot media and some documentation seem to be
a *lot* cheaper than buying the pieces separately.  So maybe I should
buy the "Installation" kit and throw out the stuff I don't need.

My kingdom for a phone number to someone who understands *exactly*
what I need to order!

mike@raven.uss.tek.com (Mike Ewan) (09/15/90)

In article <9009140335.AA28807@watcgl.waterloo.edu> idallen@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (Ian! D. Allen [CGL]) writes:
>I have a pair of DS5400, some MVII/GPX, some VS2000, some VS3100, and
>some VS3200.  I want to put Ultrix UWS 4.0 on them all, downloaded via
>network MOP from either the MIPS or the VAX.  I don't need standalone
>boot media.  What product numbers do I order to get just the TK50 setld
>kits, without boot media?  I'm guessing that these will do what I want:
>
>  QA-YL5AA-H5 ULTRIX WS TO SRV VAX
>  QA-YL6AA-H5 ULTRIX WS TO SRV RISC
>
>[...]
>
>Now, having got the software, I need exactly one set of documentation for
>UWS 4.0 and its underlying Ultrix 4.0.  What do I order, to get it all?
>I've found "QA-0JQAK-GZ UWS FULL DOC KIT" ($6,036CDN), but that seems a
>bit pricey for just the manuals.  It doesn't help that QA-0JQAA-GZ is
>also called a FULL DOC KIT ($2,581CDN) and the people at DECdirect
>were just as confused as I.

Let's see if this helps.  (This info is from the Digital Electonic Store,
800-234-1998, call this thing up via 1200bps or 2400bps modem and
subscribe.  It won't replace someone really knowledgable but it does help.)


SOFTWARE DOCUMENTATION

 $1280.16 (U.S.)

 MODEL NUMBER   

    Model No    Description
    QA-0JQAA-GZ ULTRIX WS V4.0 FULL DOC KIT
           contains all items listed below
            QA-0JQAD-GZ   ULTRIX-32 END USER KIT
            QA-0JQAE-GZ   ULTRIX-32 PROGRAMMERS KIT
            QA-VEYAA-GZ   ULTRIX-32 V3.1 DOC KIT
    QA-0JQAK-GZ UWS FULL DOC KIT V4.0
    QA-0JQAA-H5 ULTRIX WS SW UPD TK50
    QA-0JQAA-H8 ULTRIX WS SW UPD CDROM
    QA-0JQAD-GZ ULTRIX WS V4.0 END USER DOC K
    QA-0JQAE-GZ ULTRIX WS PROG V4.0 DOC KIT
    QA-0JQAF-GZ UWS RELEASE NOTES KIT V4.0
    QA-0JQAF-H5 ULTRIX WS (VS3520) TK50
    QA-0JQAG-H5 ULTRIX WS (VS3820) TK50


SOFTWARE LICENSES
                                                  List  E/U      Net  Days Lead
    Model No    Description                      Price  Disc     Price   Time
    QL-VEYAN-BC ULTRIX 2-USR BASE LIC  (uVAX II)  3213 16.00     2698.92    1
    QL-VEYAN-BE ULTRIX 8 USER LICENSE             1178 16.00      989.52    1
    QL-VEYAN-BF ULTRIX 16 USER LICENSE            3534 16.00     2968.56    1
    QL-VEYAN-BG ULTRIX 32 USER LICENSE            5890 16.00     4947.60    1
    QL-VEYAN-BH ULTRIX 64 USER LICENSE            8246 16.00     6926.64    1

    QL-0JQAQ-BC ULTRIX WS BASE LIC    (VAXsta II) 3213 16.00     2698.92    1
    QL-0JQAQ-BD ULTRIX WS 4 USER LICENSE           801 16.00      672.84    1
    QL-0JQAQ-BE ULTRIX WS 8 USER LICENSE          1602 16.00     1345.68    1
    QL-0JQAQ-BF ULTRIX WS 16 USER LICENSE         4805 16.00     4036.20    1
    QL-0JQAQ-BG ULTRIX WS 32 USER LICENSE        11211 16.00     9417.24    1
    QL-0JQAQ-BH ULTRIX WS 64 USER LICENSE        24023 16.00    20179.32    1

    QL-YL6A2-AA ULTRIX WS VAX SERVER              5635 16.00     4733.40   30
    QL-YL6A3-AA ULTRIX WS VAX SERVER              6282 16.00     5276.88   30
    QL-YL6A5-AA ULTRIX WS VAX SERVER             32103 16.00    26966.52   30
    QL-YL6AB-AA ULTRIX WS VAX SERVER              2100 16.00     1764.00   30
    QL-YL6AC-AA ULTRIX WS VAX SERVER              2100 16.00     1764.00   30
    QL-YL6AD-AA ULTRIX WS VAX SERVER              9964 16.00     8369.76   30
    QL-YL6AE-AA ULTRIX WS VAX SERVER              7031 16.00     5906.04   30
    QL-YL6AF-AA ULTRIX WS VAX SERVER              4706 16.00     3953.04   30
    QL-YL6AG-AA ULTRIX WS VAX SERVER              6282 16.00     5276.88   30
    QL-YL6AH-AA ULTRIX WS VAX SERVER              5635 16.00     4733.40   30
    QL-YL6AJ-AA ULTRIX WS VAX SERVER              5092 16.00     4277.28   30
    QL-YL6AK-AA ULTRIX WS VAX SERVER              3999 16.00     3359.16   30
    QL-YL6AL-AA ULTRIX WS VAX SERVER              3660 16.00     3074.40   30
    QL-YL6AN-AA ULTRIX WS VAX SERVER              1363 16.00     1144.92   30
    QL-YL6AP-AA ULTRIX WS VAX SERVER               682 16.00      572.88   30
    QL-YL6AR-AA ULTRIX WS VAX SERVER               682 16.00      572.88   30
    QL-YL6AS-AA ULTRIX WS VAX SERVER              2100 16.00     1764.00   30
    QL-YL6AV-AA ULTRIX WS VAX SERVER             16809 16.00    14119.56   30

    QL-0JQA9-HZ ULTRIX WS SW RTC UPD               273 16.00      229.32    1
    QL-0JQAC-HZ ULTRIX WS SW RTC UPD              1053 16.00      884.52    1
    QL-0JQAQ-HZ ULTRIX WS SW RTC UPD (VAXsta II)  1053 16.00      884.52    1
    QL-0JQAR-HZ ULTRIX WS SW RTC UPD              1053 16.00      884.52    1

    QL-VEYAD-HZ ULTRIX RTC UPD                    1665 16.00     1398.60    1
    QL-VEYAE-HZ ULTRIX RTC UPD                    1665 16.00     1398.60    1
    QL-VEYAF-HZ ULTRIX RTC UPD                    1252 16.00     1051.68    1
    QL-VEYAG-HZ ULTRIX RTC UPD                    1665 16.00     1398.60    1
    QL-VEYAH-HZ ULTRIX RTC UPD                    1665 16.00     1398.60    1

    QL-VEYAJ-HZ ULTRIX RTC UPD                    1665 16.00     1398.60    1
    QL-VEYAK-HZ ULTRIX RTC UPD                    1252 16.00     1051.68    1
    QL-VEYAL-HZ ULTRIX RTC UPD                    1252 16.00     1051.68    1
    QL-VEYAN-HZ ULTRIX RTC UPD       (uVAX II)     527 16.00      442.68    1
--
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 Unix Systems Support                   UUCP:  ...!tektronix!puffin!raven!mike
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D. Allen [CGL]) (09/15/90)

>Let's see if this helps.
>    Model No    Description
>    QA-0JQAA-GZ ULTRIX WS V4.0 FULL DOC KIT
>           contains all items listed below
>            QA-0JQAD-GZ   ULTRIX-32 END USER KIT
>            QA-0JQAE-GZ   ULTRIX-32 PROGRAMMERS KIT
>            QA-VEYAA-GZ   ULTRIX-32 V3.1 DOC KIT
>    QA-0JQAK-GZ UWS FULL DOC KIT V4.0
>    QA-0JQAD-GZ ULTRIX WS V4.0 END USER DOC K
>    QA-0JQAE-GZ ULTRIX WS PROG V4.0 DOC KIT
>    QA-0JQAF-GZ UWS RELEASE NOTES KIT V4.0

No, this doesn't help.  See how you get VEYAA Ultrix V3.1 docs with the QAA
Ultrix WS 4.0 doc kit.  See how QAA and QAK are both called "FULL DOC KIT".
-- 
-IAN! (Ian! D. Allen) idallen@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca idallen@watcgl.waterloo.edu
 [129.97.128.64]  Computer Graphics Lab/University of Waterloo/Ontario/Canada

pavlov@canisius.UUCP (Greg Pavlov) (09/19/90)

In article <6560@tekgen.BV.TEK.COM>, mike@raven.uss.tek.com (Mike Ewan) writes:

> Let's see if this helps.  (This info is from the Digital Electonic Store,
> 800-234-1998, call this thing up via 1200bps or 2400bps modem and
> subscribe.  It won't replace someone really knowledgable but it does help.)
> 

  ...and if you hit a ctrl-C when you get to the login screens, you'll get in-
     to the system anyway.  I think that that is because the primary reason for
     formal accounts is to control access to ordering  (and several other 
     features are not available either).

    Once you figure out the menus, you'll often find this system to be the most
    reliable and accessible source of info/pricing on DEC products - obviously,
    one needs to filter out the "sell".

   greg pavlov, fstrf, amherst, ny