carson@tron.UUCP (Dana Carson) (09/22/90)
I am trying to use xdm instead of the DEC session manager as my X
startup. It looks good at first but after logging in and logging out
I get two login boxes! I fiddled with it for a while and have tried
using the simplest possible xdm configuration files I can thing of and
it's still happening.
It looks like it starts going wrong right away since I tried
rebooting my workstation and a ps-ax | grep xdm from a dumb terminal
without ever logging in as an X user gives three xdms running.
After a login, logout cycle I have three but two of them have new
PIDs. I get a normal login box. Another cycle and I get two login
boxes that want me to click to place (I'm using uwm). A ps shows four
xdms running. The PIDs are different for four of them.
example
first time before login
PIDs 83, 86, 110
after login logout
PIDs 83, x, y
after next login logout
PIDs 83, 1043, 1046, 1050
I am using DECwindows X not MIT X.
Any answers, questions, suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
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WIN: 285-3513envbvs@epb2.lbl.gov (Brian V. Smith) (09/22/90)
In article <646@tron.UUCP>, carson@tron.UUCP (Dana Carson) writes: |> |> I am trying to use xdm instead of the DEC session manager as my X |> startup. It looks good at first but after logging in and logging out |> I get two login boxes! I fiddled with it for a while and have tried |> using the simplest possible xdm configuration files I can thing of and |> it's still happening. How are you starting xdm? It should NOT be started by /etc/ttys, which would start a new one everytime you log out. Is should be started once in, say /etc/rc.local and never again. -- Brian V. Smith (bvsmith@lbl.gov) Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory I don't speak for LBL; they don't pay me enough for that.
jmg@cernvax.UUCP (mike gerard) (09/22/90)
In article <646@tron.UUCP> carson@tron.UUCP (Dana Carson) writes: > > I am trying to use xdm instead of the DEC session manager as my X >startup. It looks good at first but after logging in and logging out >I get two login boxes! I fiddled with it for a while and have tried >using the simplest possible xdm configuration files I can thing of and >it's still happening. > > It looks like it starts going wrong right away since I tried >rebooting my workstation and a ps-ax | grep xdm from a dumb terminal >without ever logging in as an X user gives three xdms running. > > After a login, logout cycle I have three but two of them have new >PIDs. I get a normal login box. Another cycle and I get two login >boxes that want me to click to place (I'm using uwm). A ps shows four >xdms running. The PIDs are different for four of them. > I am using DECwindows X not MIT X. By a peculiar coincidence I spent yesterday afternoon trying to get xdm running as the display manager to use with an NCD X-terminal which we are trying. I may later also try to use xdm locally on the DECstation (when I understand what other startups it replaces). However, having defined the terminal in the Xservers file as foreign and starting up xdm with xdm -server "ncdxt1:0 NCD-19 foreign" I indeed get communication between the DECstation and the NCD, plus a logon window on the NCD, but I cannot login, probably because I keep getting multiple copies of xdm running, each of which puts a new logon\ window onto the NCD. In fact, even if I kill the DEC session manager I keep getting more xdm copies: I have to reboot my station to stop this happening. Trouble-shooting is, of course, made more difficult by having no documentation of the xdm on my DECstation: I guess it is probably X11 release 3 but (unlike Suns) there are no man pages nor hard-copy DEC documentation. I have looked to see if there are any error logs in /var/adm: nothing. I too am running DECwindows X on my station, but I prefer twm to uwm. All help gratefully received, and I shall continue to scan this bulletin board! -- _ _ o | __ | jmg@cernvax.uucp | | | | _ / \ _ __ _ __ _| jmg@cernvax.bitnet | | | | |_) /_) | __/_) | (___\ | (_/ | J. M. Gerard, Div. DD, CERN, | | |_|_| \_/\___ \__/ \___| (_|_| \_|_ 1211 Geneva 23, Switzerland
meissner@osf.org (Michael Meissner) (09/23/90)
In article <7148@dog.ee.lbl.gov> envbvs@epb2.lbl.gov (Brian V. Smith) writes: | In article <646@tron.UUCP>, carson@tron.UUCP (Dana Carson) writes: | |> | |> I am trying to use xdm instead of the DEC session manager as my X | |> startup. It looks good at first but after logging in and logging out | |> I get two login boxes! I fiddled with it for a while and have tried | |> using the simplest possible xdm configuration files I can thing of and | |> it's still happening. | | How are you starting xdm? It should NOT be started by /etc/ttys, which | would start a new one everytime you log out. Is should be started once | in, say /etc/rc.local and never again. I would get two or more xdm's occansionally when I was using xdm and the DECwindows server (and yes, xdm was always started in /etc/rc.local). It seemed to happen whenever I left any X clients running before terminating the toplevel xterm. I have since switched to a complete X11R4 (ie, no DEC supplied X software), and the problem has gone away. I suspected that because the ICCCM became offical in X11R4, the session manager is properly telling the clients to terminate, and with the DEC clients which are X11R3 based, one or more didn't understand xdm. One thing that the DEC session manager did was capture /dev/console output. Using xdm, you need to run something like xconsole (or the XView program contool, or the Andrew equivalent whose name escapes me). -- Michael Meissner email: meissner@osf.org phone: 617-621-8861 Open Software Foundation, 11 Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA, 02142 Do apple growers tell their kids money doesn't grow on bushes?
carson@tron.UUCP (Dana Carson) (09/26/90)
In article <646@tron.UUCP> carson@tron.UUCP (Dana Carson) writes: > > I am trying to use xdm instead of the DEC session manager as my X >startup. It looks good at first but after logging in and logging out >I get two login boxes! I fiddled with it for a while and have tried >using the simplest possible xdm configuration files I can thing of and >it's still happening. > > It looks like it starts going wrong right away since I tried >rebooting my workstation and a ps-ax | grep xdm from a dumb terminal >without ever logging in as an X user gives three xdms running. ^ this was explained as correct > This is a long message since the shorter one a few days didn't give enough for anyone to come up with a answer. I thank everyone who tried however and maybe with more details you can figure it out. First the xdm config files, and then ps -l listings of what happened with comments. Xstartup #!/bin/sh # # Xstartup # # This program is run as root after the user is verified # ------------------------------------------------------------ Xservers :0 local /usr/bin/Xqvsm :0 ------------------------------------------------------------ Xsession #!/bin/sh case $# in 1) case $1 in failsafe) exec xterm -geometry 80x24+50+50 ;; esac esac startup=$HOME/.xsession resources=$HOME/.Xresources if [ -f $startup ]; then if [ -x $startup ]; then exec $startup else exec /bin/sh $startup fi else if [ -f $resources ]; then xrdb -load $resources fi uwm & exec xterm -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls fi ------------------------------------------------------------ Xreset #!/bin/sh # # Xstartup # # This program is run as root after the session terminates but # before the display is closed # ------------------------------------------------------------ Xresources DisplayManager.DISPLAY.userPath: /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:usr/ucb:. DisplayManager.DISPLAY.systemPath: /etc:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/ucb xlogin*login.translations: #override\ <Key>F1: set-session-argument(failsafe) finish-field()\n\ <Key>Return: set-session-argument() finish-field() xlogin*borderWidth: 3 #ifdef COLOR xlogin*greetColor: #f63 xlogin*failColor: red xlogin*Foreground: black xlogin*Background: #fdc #else xlogin*Foreground: black xlogin*Background: white #endif ------------------------------------------------------------ xdm-config DisplayManager.servers: /usr/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers DisplayManager.errorLogFile: /usr/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-errors DisplayManager*resources: /usr/lib/X11/xdm/Xresources DisplayManager*startup: /usr/lib/X11/xdm/Xstartup DisplayManager*reset: /usr/lib/X11/xdm/Xreset DisplayManager*session: /usr/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession ------------------------------------------------------------ xdm-errors after I did all the things below. Was empty at the start. test: argument expected usage: dxmail [display] [=geometry] XIO: fatal IO error 32 Broken pipe on X server ":0.0" after 655 requests (655 known processed) with 0 events remaining. The connection was probably broken by a server shutdown or KillClient. XIO: unable to open connection after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. The connection was probably broken by a server shutdown or KillClient. XIO: fatal IO error 32 Broken pipe on X server ":0.0" after 133 requests (109 known processed) with 0 events remaining. The connection was probably broken by a server shutdown or KillClient. Binding TCP socket: Address already in use test: argument expected usage: dxmail [display] [=geometry] Binding TCP socket: Address already in use ------------------------------------------------------------------- .xsession dxclock -analog -g =157x90-0-0 & dxmail -iconic & uwm & exec xterm -ls ------------------------------------------------------------------- When I started before I tried to login the first time on the workstation I had pids 1, 83, 86, 87, 138 from the listing below running, along with all the routine things I deleted from each ps listing. After I logged in on hyde (the workstation) the first time I had this. F UID PID PPID CP PRI NI ADDR SZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND 10000000 0 1 0 39 5 0 0 256 0 758dc IW ? 0:02 init 8001 0 83 1 11 5 0 20f0 134 52 75ff8 I ? 0:00 /usr/bin/X11/xdm 8001 0 86 83 11 5 0 1ff4 134 54 75cec I ? 0:00 /usr/bin/X11/xdm 10008001 0 87 86 9 1 0 286e 525 275 ea594 I ? 0:29 /usr/bin/Xqvsm :0 8001 0 138 86 14 5 0 1e44 212 48 7691c I ? 0:02 /usr/bin/X11/xdm 10008001 269 169 138 7 1 0 27b4 228 92 ea594 I ? 0:02 xterm -ls 10008001 269 172 169 1 1 0 25d8 531 143 ea594 I ? 0:03 dxclock -analog -g =157x90-0-0 10008401 269 173 169 0 30 0 28d4 0 0 Z ? 0:00 <exiting> 10008001 269 174 169 33 1 0 28d4 131 35 ea594 I ? 0:04 uwm 10008001 269 175 169 58 3 0 1b7c 101 51 521a0 I p0 0:02 -csh (csh) I then logged out and had this. When I logged out the clock went away the screen went black and then back to plain grey, and a login box appeared normally. F UID PID PPID CP PRI NI ADDR SZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND 10000001 0 1 0 0 5 0 26ae 256 208 758dc I ? 0:02 init 8001 0 83 1 9 5 0 20f0 134 52 75ff8 I ? 0:00 /usr/bin/X11/xdm 10008001 0 87 1 55 1 0 140a 589 449 ea594 S ? 0:39 /usr/bin/Xqvsm :0 8001 0 188 83 5 5 0 200c 134 54 75cec I ? 0:00 /usr/bin/X11/xdm 10008001 0 189 188 0 15 0 2206 87 34 fe400 S ? 0:00 /usr/bin/Xqvsm :0 8001 0 190 188 14 1 0 22ea 187 146 ea594 S ? 0:00 /usr/bin/X11/xdm I then logged in again giving this. Notice the extra X server. F UID PID PPID CP PRI NI ADDR SZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND 10000000 0 1 0 0 5 0 0 256 0 758dc IW ? 0:02 init 8001 0 83 1 9 5 0 20f0 134 52 75ff8 I ? 0:00 /usr/bin/X11/xdm 10008001 0 87 1107 1 0 140a 589 348 ea594 S ? 0:49 /usr/bin/Xqvsm :0 8001 0 188 83 5 5 0 200c 134 54 75cec I ? 0:00 /usr/bin/X11/xdm 10008001 0 189 188 0 15 0 2206 87 15 fe400 S ? 0:00 /usr/bin/Xqvsm :0 8001 0 190 188 35 5 0 22ea 211 44 77240 I ? 0:01 /usr/bin/X11/xdm 10008001 269 198 190 9 1 0 219c 228 108 ea594 I ? 0:01 xterm -ls 10008001 269 201 198 12 1 0 1b16 531 175 ea594 S ? 0:03 dxclock -analog -g =157x90-0-0 10008401 269 202 198 0 32 0 2a48 0 0 Z ? 0:00 <exiting> 10008001 269 203 198 27 1 0 2a48 131 37 ea594 I ? 0:03 uwm 10008001 269 204 198 73 3 0 26f4 101 46 521a0 I p0 0:02 -csh (csh) Logout again and have this. Uwm is still around now owned by init as is the clock, one of the X servers, and two of the xdms. I had two login boxes appear and I had to position them so uwm was handling them. F UID PID PPID CP PRI NI ADDR SZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND 10000001 0 1 0 4 5 0 1c74 256 203 758dc S ? 0:02 init 8001 0 83 1 10 5 0 20f0 134 50 75ff8 I ? 0:00 /usr/bin/X11/xdm 10008001 0 87 1 71 1 0 140a 629 367 ea594 S ? 0:58 /usr/bin/Xqvsm :0 10008001 269 201 1 9 1 0 1b16 531 98 ea594 S ? 0:03 dxclock -analog -g =157x90-0-0 10008001 269 203 1 21 1 0 2a48 131 35 ea594 S ? 0:03 uwm 8001 0 211 1 9 1 0 207c 195 93 ea594 I ? 0:00 /usr/bin/X11/xdm 8001 0 212 83 8 5 0 201e 134 27 75cec I ? 0:00 /usr/bin/X11/xdm 10008001 0 213 212 0 15 0 2400 87 15 fe400 S ? 0:00 /usr/bin/Xqvsm :0 8001 0 218 212 12 1 0 1d78 195 130 ea594 S ? 0:00 /usr/bin/X11/xdm What am I doing wrong! -- Dana Carson Westinghouse Electronic Systems Group Mail Stop 1615 UUCP:carson@tron.UUCP carson@tron.bwi.wec.com ...!uunet!tron!carson AT&T: (301) 765-3513 WIN: 285-3513