[comp.unix.ultrix] Gigabyte backup devices for DecStation 3100

crowston@athena.mit.edu (Kevin Crowston) (09/27/90)

A while back I asked for recommendations for backup devices for the
DecStation 3100 that could handle about a gigabyte per tape (or
whatever).  Here are the replies I got, unedited:

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Date: Thu, 6 Sep 90 13:58:22 CDT
From: jah@MARGO.OTS.UTEXAS.EDU (Jeff Hayward)

We just took delivery of 4  - 1GB capacity disks, and two 4mm DAT drives. 
I considered the 8mm stuff, which does have higher density and xfer
rates (for now), but settled for the less expensive and mechanically
simpler DAT drives.  The DAT tapes should also survive more passes
over the heads, I'm told (on the order of 1000s).  Also a consideration
was that the 4mm DDS standard had some chance of becoming an
interchange standard, while 8mm is still de-facto.

The drives we bought are the WangDAT 1300.  Nice package, 1/2 height
5.25".  About $1500.

Jeff Hayward
The University of Texas System          +1 512 471 2444
Office of Telecommunication Services    jeff@nic.the.net

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Date: Thu, 6 Sep 90 11:36:10 -0400
From: wojcik@CRL.DEC.COM

We're using Exabyte tape drives here.  They are reliable and store up to 5GB
depending on model and length of tape.  Exabyte EXB8200s store, for instance,
2.3GB on a 120 min. tape and the EXB8500 is supposed to store 5GB on a 120 min.
tape.  One thing I've found: an Exabyte is an Exabyte is an Exabyte.  Many
vendors offer the SAME DRIVE in different boxes at different prices.  I've not
seen the EXB8500 yet though the last time I checked, Exabyte was supposed to
release it this summer.

/Ted

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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 90 11:32:50 est
From: root@iceman.oz.au (0000-Admin)

We use an EXAbyte EXB-8200 8MM Cartridge Tape Subsystem.
EXABYTE Corp., 1745 38th Street, Boulder, Colorado 80301
Of course we bought it locally, but thought you might need that guff.
We have a 2100,3100,5000 offering a general user service.
The 3100 has 1 RZ23,2*RZ56, the 5000 1*RZ56,1*RZ57, the 2100 is a
diskless client.  The user filesystems are NFS mounted across all
systems.  A df on the 3100 follows:

15 marlin: % df
Filesystem                 Total    kbytes   kbytes   %
node                       kbytes   used     free     used  Mounted on
/dev/rz1a                    15551   10457    3539    75%   /
/dev/rz3g                    49935   12698   32244    28%   /tmp
/dev/rz2g                   263423  203035   34046    86%   /usr
/dev/rz2e                    62527   27494   28781    49%   /var
/dev/rz2f                   217263  119786   75751    61%   /dlenv0
/dev/rz3a                    46063   25494   15963    61%   /dlclient0
groper.jcu.edu.au:/usr/man  271847  148880   95783    61%   /usr/man
groper.jcu.edu.au:/user2    543310  420990   67989    86%   /user2
groper.jcu.edu.au:/users    322927  170927  119708    59%   /users
wanda.jcu.edu.au:/usr/scs   142919   69210   59418    54%   /usr/scs
jculib:/usr                 512634  353997  107374    77%   /jcuusr
jculib:/jcuv                543710  449550   39789    92%   /jcudyn
curacoa:/usr/users/cameron  227079  195452    8920    96%   /user2/cpcg/curacoa

I back this up daily using cron and the following script:

#!/bin/csh
cd /
tar cvf /dev/rmt1h . >& /tmp/backup/tarbackup.log
echo 'tarbackup finished ' `date` >> /tmp/backup/tarbackup.log

The EXAbyte is rated to 2.3GB and takes approx 5 hrs to do this
on a lightly loaded system.  I have had no problems restoring thus far.

Regards, Kent Adams     Internet:cckba@marlin.jcu.edu.au
Phone:+61 77 814255     Snail:  Computer Centre
  Fax:+61 77 796371             James Cook University
                                Townsville..4811
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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 90 14:44:57 CDT
From: jiml@SLH.WISC.EDU (James E. Leinweber)

Various people are using exabyte 8mm drives here at the UW Madison to
good effect.  The drive reliability is not outstanding, the transfer
rates low, and the tape quality erratic, but we have on the whole
quite successful with them.  (I.e., we restore files often and it
works.)  Be sure to have maintenance contract on the drive, clean it
on a suitable schedule, and buy one with an LCD display panel.

Jim Leinweber  1-608-262-0736  State Lab. of Hygiene/U. of Wisconsin - Madison 
jiml@sente.slh.wisc.edu	       uunet!uwvax!uwslh!jiml        fax:(608)262-3257

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We still haven't quite decided what to do, so I can't offer any
advice of my own (yet).  Thanks to all who replied.

Kevin Crowston
MIT Sloan School of Management