flanagan@lisbon.stat.washington.edu (Jim Flanagan) (11/29/90)
I recently got a DS3100 with a RX23 floppy drive. I have some questions on how to make it go. I don't have my Ultrix 4.0 Docs yet (fun! Ultrix is wierd.). I do have dome documentation called "Ultrix Software Update Installation Kit for the DECstation 2100/3100 with an RX23 drive" which contains the instruction : "... To support the RX23 floppy drive, your system must be running ULTRIX operating system Version 3.1 or ULTRIX Worksystem Software Version 2.1 prior to installing this update. "... If the operating system is ULTRIX Worksystem Version 2.2 or higher, do not use this update." Is ULTRIX Worksystem different from the ULTRIX operarting system? Anyways the kernel doesn't seem to recognize the device. Second question: Once the drive is up and running, is there any utility to format and write DOS floppies (without SoftPC or something like that)? Third question: Rebuilding the kernel by hand was FUN! Why did DEC take this away from us? (If you try to do it by hand under 4.0, it rarely works) --- Jim Flanagan, Sys. Programmer = flanagan@stat.washington.edu Dept. of Statistics = stat.washington.edu University of Washington = washington.edu
mellon@fenris.pa.dec.com (Ted Lemon) (11/29/90)
Third question: Rebuilding the kernel by hand was FUN! Why did DEC take this away from us? (If you try to do it by hand under 4.0, it rarely works) Jim, could you be more specific? I rebuild my kernel "by hand" all the time, and it seems to work just fine. _MelloN_
hoyt@wreck.alf.dec.com (Kurt Hoyt) (11/29/90)
In article <11862@milton.u.washington.edu>, flanagan@lisbon.stat.washington.edu (Jim Flanagan) writes: |> I recently got a DS3100 with a RX23 floppy drive. I have some questions |> on how to make it go. |> DO NOT apply the patch. If you are using ULTRIX 4.0, you would be using UWS 4.0. UWS 2.2 ran on ULTRIX 3.1. As of 4.0, the version numbers are in sync. |> Is ULTRIX Worksystem different from the ULTRIX operarting system? Anyways |> the kernel doesn't seem to recognize the device. Is the rz device for the floppy configured in? The RX23 is a SCSI drive on the DS3100. |> Second question: Once the drive is up and running, is there any utility |> to format and write DOS floppies (without SoftPC or something like that)? To format, use rzdisk(8). To make a filesystem, use newfs(8). I don't know if the disks produced are MS-DOS compatible: they appear to have a BSD file system on them after the newfs and the drive is a SCSI drive, not a PC drive. -- Kurt in Atlanta | Atlanta hoyt@decatl.alf.dec.com | Site of the 1996 Olympics hoyt@wreck.alf.dec.com |
pavlov@canisius.UUCP (Greg Pavlov) (12/02/90)
In article <11862@milton.u.washington.edu>, flanagan@lisbon.stat.washington.edu (Jim Flanagan) writes: > > Third question: Rebuilding the kernel by hand was FUN! Why did DEC take > this away from us? (If you try to do it by hand under 4.0, it rarely works) > I am not sure what you mean. I have been rebuilding ULTRIX kernels the same general way from version 2.1 on thru 4.0 . Tho I admit I never tried putting together my own makefile for the task..... greg pavlov, fstrf, amherst, ny pavlov@stewart.fstrf.org
pat@orac.pgh.pa.us (Pat Barron) (12/02/90)
In article <11862@milton.u.washington.edu> flanagan@lisbon.stat.washington.edu (Jim Flanagan) writes: > Third question: Rebuilding the kernel by hand was FUN! Why did DEC take > this away from us? (If you try to do it by hand under 4.0, it rarely works) Dunno - it seems to work for me just fine. One thing to remember is that, at least under Ultrix 3.1, if you change your config file and re-run "config" on it, remember to do a "make clean" in the kernel build directory first, or things aren't likely to work right. --Pat.
flanagan@lisbon.stat.washington.edu (Jim Flanagan) (12/04/90)
In article <3052@canisius.UUCP> pavlov@canisius.UUCP (Greg Pavlov) writes: >In article <11862@milton.u.washington.edu>, flanagan@lisbon.stat.washington.edu (Jim Flanagan) writes: >> >> Third question: Rebuilding the kernel by hand was FUN! Why did DEC take >> this away from us? (If you try to do it by hand under 4.0, it rarely works) >> > I am not sure what you mean. I have been rebuilding ULTRIX kernels the > same general way from version 2.1 on thru 4.0 . Tho I admit I never tried > putting together my own makefile for the task..... > > greg pavlov, fstrf, amherst, ny > pavlov@stewart.fstrf.org Well, unless I use the "doconfig" when making the kernel (which has been known to give unpredictable results, like removing important device drivers entries, &c.) I get a whole lot of undefined symbol errors. I thought I was doing something stupid, asked a few other programmers on campus who complained of the same problem. Maybe we're ALL doing something stupid. Most of the departmants on campus (due to our site agreement) are using the same set of tapes to install... copies made by a campus agency... I don't know. Thanks for the rebuttal, --- Jim Flanagan, Sys. Programmer = flanagan@stat.washington.edu Dept. of Statistics = stat.washington.edu University of Washington = washington.edu
mellon@fenris.pa.dec.com (Ted Lemon) (12/08/90)
Jim, It doesn't help us for you to assert that you can't build the kernel if you won't tell us what it is that you're doing that's not working. Could you please post a copy of the config file you're trying to build, along with the commands that you're using to build it? A copy of the output of the make command might also be useful. Believe me, it is possible to make it work. _MelloN_
flanagan@lisbon.stat.washington.edu (Jim Flanagan) (12/11/90)
Thanks to all who replied to my posting about getting the DS3100 floppy and building the kernel hy hand with more information than "Hmmm. Works for me." My specific problem in building the kernel was the simple failure to do a make clean in between builds. Imagine that... What is the bug number for this? (SMILE when you type that, pardner!) :) I still think it is worth it to appeal to the net for help, even though you have to wade through all of the "Lord, are you an IDIOT!" mail. -- Jim "Unsupported Configuration" Flanagan --- Jim Flanagan, Sys. Programmer | flanagan@stat.washington.edu Dept. of Statistics | University of Washington | It's okay to be an idiot.