[net.micro] Cheap LQ printer wanted

UI.MIKE@CU20B.ARPA (Michael Ardai) (08/26/85)

My brother is looking for a cheap (under/around $300) letter-quality
printer for home use.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  How good are
the Silver-Reed 400, 500, and the Juki 6000 printers? 

					Michael L. Ardai

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				    for Computing Activities

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jp@lanl.ARPA (08/26/85)

> My brother is looking for a cheap (under/around $300) letter-quality
> printer for home use.  Does anyone have any suggestions?


YES.  I have purchased two COMREX CR-IIE's for my college students word
processing applications.  They are 17cps and are available for about $359.
The print wheels are more expensive than some, but they are supposed to
be long lived and they are extremely easy to change.  No problem if you
want to stop the output, print one Greek letter, and continue.  Couldn't
do that on my Qume because the ribbon and print wheel interact in a way
that made changing printwheels too time consuming to do in the middle of
text.  The ribbons also snap in and out easily.  There are virtually
identical models available under the names Brothers (HR-15XL) and 
Dynax (????).

Jim Potter  jp@lanl.arpa

gary@ISM780.UUCP (08/29/85)

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I would highly recommend a Citizen MSP-10 or MSP-20, made by the Citizen 
watch people, and which are fairly new to the market (I believe the 10 
went on sale last November and the 20 came out about March).

The Citizens are have a lot of features, including a fast "lineprinter" 
mode and a slower correspondance quality mode; they are extemely quiet, 
IBM or Epson compatible, and come with an 18 month warranty.  These are 
dot matrix printers, but the resolution in correspondance quality mode 
is so tight that people can't believe the text was made by a dot matrix
printer; in fact "lineprinter" mode type looks real good as well.  They 
are also capable of printing in a lot of fonts, including expanded 
(extra wide), "emphasized", double-strike and combinations of those
(the 20 has more fonts available than the 10 -- see below), and they
have some graphics capabilities.

The MSP-10 and 20 is are 80-column wide printers; there are also an 
132-column models, the MSP-15 and MSP-25.  About 6 months ago I saw 10's 
advertized for $360 and the 20's (brand new at the time) for $450.  
You can probably beat those prices now.

For inquiries:
      Citizen America Corp., 2425 Colorado Ave., Santa Monica, Ca. 90404
      (800) 441 23455

Differences between the MSP-10 and MSP-20 according to the spec. sheets:
	MSP-10          MSP-20
	------          ------
	160 cps         200 cps         Print speed
	 40 cps          50 cps         Correspondence quality speed
	  2 ips         1.8 ips         Paper advance speed
	 1K              8K             Standard input data buffer
	 8K             64K             Optional input data buffer
	18x9            17x17           Double-strike print matix

In addition, the MSP-20 has:
1. Proportional spacing
2. 256 downloadable characters ("for international communications capability")
3. Elite compressed and compressed/expanded characters, in addition to the
   regular Elite and Elite expanded chars which the MSP-10 has as well.
4. Vertical expanded print (X2)

I haven't heard *anything* bad about the Citizens, and I'm thinking
about getting an MSP-20 myself.  If anyone has some caveats, please
post or send them to me.  These are my own opions and I have no
relationship to Citizen America.

Gary Swift, INTERACTIVE Systems Corp., Santa Monica, Ca., (213) 453 8649
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vector@inuxe.UUCP (Randal Blackwood) (08/30/85)

> My brother is looking for a cheap (under/around $300) letter-quality
> printer for home use.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  How good are
> the Silver-Reed 400, 500, and the Juki 6000 printers? 
> 
I noticed a local store selling Coleco Adam for $200. Would it be possible
(even though it is slow and noisy) to adapt that printer to another
computer?

Randy Blackwood
inuxe!vector
AT&T - Indianapolis