[comp.unix.ultrix] Proxy logins?

jrb@idx.com (02/21/91)

Hi Folks,
 We are using a DECstation 5000 running utlrix 4.0.  We also are using DECnet.
Is there a way to do something like a proxy login from a Vax using DECnet?
Right now, I use the command from my VAX:
submit/remote buck"jrb password"::"/usr/jrb/decwrite" 
to start a job on the ultrix system.  I would like to eliminate the username and
password string in that command by having a proxy login on the ultrix host.
I've looked at the manuals, to no avail.  Any ideas?
Thanks,
Jim Bresee
jrb@idx.com

grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) (02/24/91)

In article <624@mesrx.UUCP> bbraden@mesrx.UUCP (Bill Braden) writes:
> In article <2238.27c3b13c@idx.com> jrb@idx.com writes:
> >
> >Right now, I use the command from my VAX:
> >submit/remote buck"jrb password"::"/usr/jrb/decwrite" 
> >
> >
> It was news to me that submit/remote could be used to execute something
> on an Ultrix node since it has no batch queues.  Could someone explain
> how this works?  
> 
> Does any one know what command I can use from an Ultrix system to
> execute a job on a VMS node?  I would prefer to execute in batch on
> the VMS side.  We do not run UCX or any TCP/IP software on the VMS 
> side but we do have DECnet on both systems.

I dunno nothing about the submit/remote issue, but the general mechanism
for controlling access on the Ultrix side is the /etc/dnet_proxy file.

Listing a node::user -> login translation in this file bypasses the
normal ultrix "login:" security and I'd assume it would also work for
other DECnet mediated forms of remote access.

To execute jobs/commands on VMS from an Ultrix system, there is a sample
"tell" command distributed with the DECnet stuff and a corresponding 
batch file for the VMS side.  Other possibilities are possible using the
underlying DECnet object capabilities.

Also, I read in one of the rags about a new DEC product that was supposed
to provide VMS style queueing on Ultrix systems so that VMS types could
use the RISC systems for remote job submission.

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schemers@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Roland Schemers III) (02/24/91)

>
>Does any one know what command I can use from an Ultrix system to
>execute a job on a VMS node?  I would prefer to execute in batch on
>the VMS side.  We do not run UCX or any TCP/IP software on the VMS 
>side but we do have DECnet on both systems.

See the dcp command:

          -S   submits remote output files for execution. On ULTRIX
               systems, the -S option submits output files to the shell and
               creates a log file in the log-in directory that has the name
               filename.log, where filename is the name of the specified
               output file.

Files you submit this way goto SYS$BATCH.

Roland

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heidt@aio.jsc.nasa.gov (Mike Heidt) (02/26/91)

In article <2238.27c3b13c@idx.com> jrb@idx.com writes:
>Hi Folks,
> We are using a DECstation 5000 running utlrix 4.0.  We also are using DECnet.
>Is there a way to do something like a proxy login from a Vax using DECnet?

If you run the decnet-ultrix package you can do proxies just like VMS.
DECnet-Ultrix is an extra-cost option.  See your DEC sales people, and
bring $$$.

	Mike Heidt

brister@decwrl.dec.com (James Brister) (03/07/91)

On 23 Feb 91 19:11:31 GMT, schemers@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Roland Schemers III) said:

> See the dcp command:

>           -S   submits remote output files for execution.

> Files you submit this way goto SYS$BATCH.

Of course, this can be a logical name set in your LOGIN.COM to point to
another queue.

James
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