[net.micro] What is Tymnet?

res1@whuts.UUCP (STEALEY) (08/27/85)

 I see references to Tymnet frequently. Could anyone explain the function of
it, please?  Seems like it has something to do with accessing data bases,
Compuserve, etc.

lear@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (eliot lear) (08/29/85)

Tymnet is a nationwide network that allows people to access their computer from
far distances.  I believe it is DOD sponsored but I know it is restricted to
a small group of users.  Basically, a user dials an access number, then enters
his/her password, and then connects to a desired host.  Tymnet is not unlike
Telenet.
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kds@intelca.UUCP (Ken Shoemaker) (08/31/85)

> Tymnet is a nationwide network that allows people to access their computer from
> far distances.  I believe it is DOD sponsored but I know it is restricted to
> a small group of users.  Basically, a user dials an access number, then enters
> his/her password, and then connects to a desired host.  Tymnet is not unlike
> Telenet.
> -- 
> 
> [lear@topaz.rutgers.edu]
> [{allegra,seismo}!topaz!lear]

ok, but...

1) I don't think it is DOD sponsered, since I have used it to access
	computers that would shudder to be associated with DOD

2) I believe that they are on the net with a site in Cupertino, Ca.
	called tymnet (or something like that...)
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johnl@ima.UUCP (09/01/85)

/* Written  4:22 pm  Aug 29, 1985 by lear@topaz in ima:net.micro */
> Tymnet is a nationwide network that allows people to access their computer 
> from far distances.  I believe it is DOD sponsored but I know it is 
> restricted to a small group of users.  Basically, a user dials an access 
> number, then enters his/her password, and then connects to a desired host.  
> Tymnet is not unlike Telenet.  

Jeepers, what a lot of misinformation.  Tymnet is a public packet switched
data network, and is Telenet's arch competitor.  Although it can be used
for general purpose data communication among its subscribers, it is mostly
used for remote terminal access.  If a computer service makes arrangements
with Tymnet, any of the service's customers can call in through Tymnet which
is usually much cheaper than making a long-distance phone call.  Typical
systems that allow Tymnet access are Compuserve and MCI Mail.  The billing
is handled through the computer service -- you don't have to make any
arrangements with Tymnet yourself.  I suspect that Tymnet has hundreds of
thousands of users over, say, a year.

Tymnet is a subsidiary of Tymshare, an old-line time sharing company, and
has nothing to do with DOD.

John Levine, ima!johnl

rbp@investor.UUCP (Bob Peirce) (09/01/85)

I don't know everything tymnet is used for, but it does provide a
way for people to access computer services of one sort or another
through a local phone call.  In my experience with it, the vendor of
the service hooks up to Tymnet.  He provides you with the info to
log in and a local phone number.  This save the supplier from having
to provide his own out of town links.
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granvold@tymix.UUCP (Tom Granvold) (09/02/85)

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    In reading the explanation of what Tymnet is my first responce is:

        Tymnet is not DOD sponsored! Tymnet was, up to early 1984, a
        wholly owned by Tymshare. It was not a part of Tymshare because
        of FCC regulations. In 1984 Tymshare was bought by McDonnell Douglas,
        is now named Tymnet, A McDonnall Douglas Company.

    After thinking for a minute I wonder if we (Tymnet) are not after all DOD
DOD sponsored. After all we are part of McDonnell Douglas :-)

Tom Granvold
Tymnet
ucbvax!oliveb!tymix!granvold

FTD%MIT-OZ@MIT-MC.ARPA (David D. Story) (09/02/85)

Re: Are all networks in essense DOD sponsored ?

Why of course you're not !
Nor are speed traps, boob tubes,
bit chompers, cellophane, canned
food, star trek and the rest of
the military/industrial complex 
(if the term is not outdated).

			Cheers,
			Dave

bobh@pedsgd.UUCP (Bob Halloran) (09/03/85)

In article <52@intelca.UUCP> kds@intelca.UUCP (Ken Shoemaker) writes:
>> Tymnet is a nationwide network that allows people to access their computer from
>> far distances.  I believe it is DOD sponsored but I know it is restricted to
>> a small group of users.  Basically, a user dials an access number, then enters
>> his/her password, and then connects to a desired host.  Tymnet is not unlike
>> Telenet.
>> -- 
>> 
>> [lear@topaz.rutgers.edu]
>
>ok, but...
>
>1) I don't think it is DOD sponsered, since I have used it to access
>	computers that would shudder to be associated with DOD
>
>2) I believe that they are on the net with a site in Cupertino, Ca.
>	called tymnet (or something like that...)

Facts of the matter:

1) Tymnet is very much like GTE Telenet; they are both commercial,
   for-profit packet-switched VAN's  (value-added network)

2) NO, they are not DOD sponsored, though I expect they have some
   government machines hanging off their lines.

3) Yes, they have a Usenet node 'tymix' in Cupertino CA, though
   given their for-profit basis, I doubt you can obtain free UUCP 
   <-> Tymnet gateway service through it.

4) Their headquarters are, I believe, in the Virginia suburbs of
   DC; they probably have an 800 number for further information.

						Bob Halloran
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jbn@wdl1.UUCP (09/06/85)

     Tymnet is the first large packet switching network; it came up slightly
before the ARPANET in the late 1960s, as a system used to allow customers 
to access the time sharing computers of Tymshare, Incorporated.  As 
deregulation of telecommunications began, the network was offered as a service 
to other operators of computer systems, and the business was split off as 
Tymnet, Incorporated.
     The original Tymshare hosts were Scientific Data Systems 945 machines;
the original packet switches were Varian Data 620Is.  Tymnet was and is
a virtual circuit network with central call setup and teardown.  There is
a central network supervisor that sets up and tears down connections,
authenticates users, and records accounting information.  There are several
machines throughout the net that can be the supervisor, but only one is
active at any one time.  (In recent years, the network has grown to the
point that there are now regional supervisors, but the centralized control
concept remains.)  The original network backbone was only 2400 baud, but
this has been increased substantially over the years.
     All virtual circuit networks are in a sense descendants of Tymnet;
the X.25 link / X.75 gateway model of the world is close to the Tymnet
design.  The original Tymnet papers make fascinating reading today; the
terminology of ``red balls,'' ``green balls'', ``circuit zappers'', and
``leprechauns'' seems very strange today.  But someone had to invent the
technology, and they did it.  Tymnet is definitely not based on the
ARPANET; in fact, Telenet, which started with ARPANET technology, has
converted over to a system more like Tymnet.
     Tymnet today has dial-in ports in most major population centers
of the U.S.; their primary business is offfering dial-in access over a
wide area for terminal to host communications.

					John Nagle