kocks@jessica.stanford.edu (Peter Kocks) (04/02/91)
Many people have mentioned problems with programs and features of ultrix, but many of the solutions seem to be at the expense of disk space. Is there a long term policy at DEC on the amount of disk space its operating system should occupy or is it just going to increase forever? As it is now, we cannot fit the entire 3.x operating system (inluding 70 Megs for local programs such as emacs) on one 300 Meg drive. In order to install 4.x, I will need to repartition the disks on 6 dec 3100s--a major task. My question is: how big should I make the /usr a partition? 150 Megs, 250 Megs, or an entire 300 Meg DISK!!!!! Does anyone have any experience it just eliminating a lot of the dec supplied programs? For example, I am thinking of canning the entire dec windows routines and replacing them with another xdx (?) and running twm (Tom's window manager) on top of it. Have you ever noticed that /usr/bin/dxvdoc (I relatively simly and for us mostly useless program) takes almost 3 Megs? Why? If microsoft can install an entire word processor in 800 K, why does a document viewing program take almost 3 Megs? Have they forgotten to "/bin/strip" the code? Am I missing something very basic here? I am considering just forgetting about all future upgrades on the dec machines and just leaving them at 3.1. Is there any reason why I should not do this? Why cannot DEC just release bug fixes to ultrix, instead of releasing new and rediculously large versions of its operating system? --Peter Kocks pkocks@chemistry.stanford.edu
hayes@LL.MIT.EDU (tony hayes) (04/02/91)
We are running ULTRIX 4.1. / and /usr both fit on a single 300 Meg disk (we are running the risc version). The sizes are: Filesystem Total kbytes kbytes % node kbytes used free used Mounted on /dev/rz0a 15343 12738 1071 92% / /dev/rz0g 227079 188530 15842 92% /usr This includes DECnet, FORTRAN, Pascal, Decwindows, all the required subsets, and most of the optional subsets. Emacs is on another disk. If you want I can e-mail directly a complete list of what is installed but I don't want to clutter the net. P.S. Under 4.1 dxvdoc is *over* 3 megs. Isn't DEC wonderful! T.L.Hayes | hayes@ll.mit.edu MIT/Lincoln Laboratory | - or - Lexington, MA | al646@cleveland.Freenet.Edu