[net.micro] Networking portables via radio and.

Fischer.pa@XEROX.ARPA (08/27/85)

Summary of replies: a few, none extensive or particularly knowledgable (
I was suprised ).

Motorola apparently makes terminals that operate in some commercially
acceptable band and at rates between 4800 and 19.2k baud (?).  Anyone
have a product name for this device?  NASA has a design for a
communication system which is satellite linked and requires an antenna
only about an inch long (hence could be put in a wristwatch sized unit).
This latter seems ideal, but who would build it?  Anyone have a
reference to a paper from NASA on it?

Rumor: Dec or IBM (more likely the latter) is equipping their field reps
with radio terminals.

That's all.  If I follow up I'll send more info.  Of course, if any
other kind souls out there would like to comment further I'll gladly
play "editor" once again...

(ron)

john@anasazi.UUCP (John Moore) (08/28/85)

In article <1018@brl-tgr.ARPA> Fischer.pa@XEROX.ARPA writes:
>Summary of replies: a few, none extensive or particularly knowledgable (
>I was suprised ).

If you really want to connect portables via radio, you might consider
amateur packet radio technology. Terminal node controllers can be
purchased for less than $300 from several suppliers. They will interface
via audio (and PTT control) to any voice quality radio transceiver
(amateur OR commercial), and will send data at 1200bps half duplex using
a modified HDLC protocol. They are legal for use on the commercial
bands (assuming, of course, that your commercial radio is properly
licensed). They will operate through repeater stations allowing a
walkie-talkie/TNC/portable_pc to communicate throughout an entire
metropolitan area. They communicate via RS232 ASCII with a simple command
set.
    These are currently used by commercial operators
for telemetry, and are also used by the US Govt for data communications
with their hurricane hunter aircraft.


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mikey@trsvax (09/13/85)

Cellular phones won't work for modems.  At least not now, and not with
off the shelf modems.  

I know some people who use Radio Shack model 100's and 200's on their 
phones, and they get OK results, but the problem is cell handoffs
droping the carrier.  Also, 300 baud is EXPENSIVE over a cellular phone.

Even when you are sitting still, the cells can be reconfiguring, causing
problems with modems.  Sure, you can get manual modems that won't
hangup on a dropped carrier, or even modems that are modified so that
the timeout is lengthened for drop, but then you're talking "custom",
not off the shelf.  If it is for a dedicated use, I'd use 1200 bps
modems wired directly to the phone.  Since the phone is half duplex
except for the handset, you can wire direct from the Rx and Tx portions
of the modem and not use it's filters.  Both modems (at the host and 
at the portable) will have to be modified to not drop line on short
carrier interuptions.

There are probably a host of other problems, just that these are where
I'd start before I'd lay out my game plan.

mikey at trsvax