[comp.unix.ultrix] TCP

terry@venus.sunquest.com (Terry R. Friedrichsen) (06/25/91)

As promised, here is the summary of responses to my request for TCP
terminal server experiences, especially ones with LAT support as well:

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We have cisco MSM-2/E servers and are very happy with them.  We didn't
buy the optional LAT but may do so later.  The native TCP/IP works well
with everything we have.

	hoffman@cs.pitt.edu (Bob Hoffman)
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We use Xyplex 1500 terminal servers.  Seem to work fine, and their 800
support is pretty decent.  We also have Racal/InterLan terminal servers.
They work, but it seems their support group could use an attitude adjustment.

	krf@wucs1.wustl.edu (Kevin R. Fenster)
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I use the Micom/Interlan TCP/LAT 8-port terminal servers (NTS-200) -- you
can find these in the "Black Box" catalog and other places. They have worked
flawlessly. One was up for 230+ days before I had to power it down because
of other work ...

	westerm@aclcb.purdue.edu (Rick Westerman)
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HEID_JAMES@allin1.adpdp2.lanl.gov (James Heid) sent a long message detailing
use of cisco and Xyplex servers for SLIP.  In summary, he says that cisco
requires the system administrator to tell it which IP address comes in on
which port, while the Xyplex learns this information dynamically.  He also
likes the maintainability features such as hot card swapping and redundant
power supplies &c. of Xyplex - features he says the cisco lacks.

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While at a previous job with Hughes Aircraft (a year ago), I had installed
and used Bridge Communications CS/1's (bridge is now owned by 3COM).
I know the 3COM servers can support lat, decnet, and tcp/ip.  I had
no problems with the CS/1's and could even set up networked print devices
off of them.  I highly recommend them.
Another product which looks good, though I haven't tested is a terminal
server produced by Equinox (company which makes a data pbx).  Their specs
look very good and support multiple protocols too.  If their term server
is as good as their data pbx's, I can readily recommend them.
	
	matrey@auto-trol.com (Matthew Reyolds)
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I strongly recommend the Xylogics Annex. Best product around.

	mah@awiwuw11.bitnet (Michael Haberler)
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The VCP[1000 by Datability] is our first multi-protocol box and
we love it!!!

It is so flex----i---ble, versatile and easy to use.  There are
so many neat features that I have not finish exploring after 2
months.

	Robert (last name unknown) from somewhere in Malaysia via
	mcimail through Western Digital Corporation	
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I've purchased the Datability server.  The design is excellent; it
approaches the sort of "plug and play" ease that people like to hype
these days.  It did everything I wanted it to do, with a minimum of
fuss and bother.  And it's cheap.

(He goes on to say that the documentation and user support are lacking,
and that the TCP support seems immature.)

	robinson@cogsci.berkeley.edu (Michael Robinson)
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I also heard from the Datability product manager, who says

"... our TCP implementation incorporates the following:
Full IP, Full TCP, TELNET (and Reverse TELNET), ARP, TFTP and BOOTP, Rlogin,
ICMP, SLIP and SNMP.  In addition, we support Domain Name System and multiple
IP addresses."

He goes on to mention that they support speeds up to 57.6kb per port.
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This is me, again:

Coincidentally, unbeknownst to me, we had a Datability server in here
for evaluation.  It was being used LAT-only, so I fired up the TCP
stuff.  Everything worked just fine, though specifying fully-qualified
domain names for hosts got old.  (Something called a profile is supposed
to alleviate this problem, but the documentation is awful and while I
could apparently successfully define one, I couldn't seem to get the
server to USE it.)

Setting up a TCP printer port was a breeze; the documented commands were
specific and worked just fine.  Do not be confused by the prose surrounding
the commands; the commands do, in fact, do just what you want them to.

I called their customer support once and got a knowledgeable and helpful
person.  (I didn't call 'em about the profile thing; I wasn't in a mood
to be civil at that point.)

The folks who actually HAVE this box tell me that it hangs about once
every day or so, and that the non-volatile parameters have to be cleared
before it will even reboot.  Datability customer support is puzzled, but
has acknowledged that there is a problem, and they are working on it.
Note, however, that two other respondents are NOT having this problem;
it looks like it is something specific to our unit or usage, and NOT
a generic problem.

This has the potential to be a really nice box, and they understand what
the box needs to be able to do.  However, they have some problems to
work out yet ...

Thanks very much to those who took the time to reply.

Terry R. Friedrichsen

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