[net.micro] MSDOS/UNIX MACHINE ??

kevin@gitpyr.UUCP (Kevin Campbell) (09/11/85)

I have a friend who is in need of some information, and he doesn't have 
access to USENET.
  He wants to know if there is a micro that supports MSDOS *and* UNIX?
(or possibly Xenix).. Also, what are the basic differences between
Unix & Xenix?
  Will the PC/AT fill the bill, or are there other machines on the
market that are better suited for these operating systems?
 
 Thanks in advance,
    Kevin Campbell
-- 
Kevin Campbell
Georgia Insitute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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rlk@chinet.UUCP (Richard L. Klappal) (09/12/85)

In article <750@gitpyr.UUCP> kevin@gitpyr.UUCP (Kevin Campbell) writes:
>I have a friend who is in need of some information, and he doesn't have 
>access to USENET.
>  He wants to know if there is a micro that supports MSDOS *and* UNIX?
>(or possibly Xenix).. Also, what are the basic differences between
>Unix & Xenix?


Check with Fortune Systems Corp for their Fortune 1000 series.
It had been officially announced last spring before I was RIFed.
It was to be a terminal or computer (if you got the system box).
It's a PC BUS machine normally with 256k ram as an MSDOS machine,
running an 8088.  Add the UN*X board, and get another .5 meg, with
a 68000, run=ning Fortunes V7/4.?BSD called FOR:PRO.

If I remember correctly, price was to be around $7k configured
with both operating systems, and 10Meg disk, but I may be in error

I don't know what the current availability of the components is now,
since I'm no longer with them.
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ewa@sdcc3.UUCP (Eric Anderson) (09/13/85)

>In article <750@gitpyr.UUCP> kevin@gitpyr.UUCP (Kevin Campbell) writes:
>>I have a friend who is in need of some information, and he doesn't have 
>>access to USENET.
>>  He wants to know if there is a micro that supports MSDOS *and* UNIX?
>>(or possibly Xenix).. Also, what are the basic differences between
>>Unix & Xenix?

Convergent Technologies makes a machine that runs both CTIX (like Xenix and
UNIX) as well as MS-DOS and can run both at the same time (I think). For more
information call Marc Bernard at (619)586-1201

ss@wanginst.UUCP (Sid Shapiro) (09/13/85)

Wang Labs just a month ago announced what they are calling an APC
(advanced prof. comp.).

It has an 8 MHz 80286, up to 2MB RAM on the system board, half height 1.2MB
floppies, 20, 30, or 60MB hard disks.  It will run MSDOS, Xenix
(Microsoft Sys III port), and In/x (Interactive systems Sys V port).
It also can come with a IBM mono or color graphics emulator board that
will run flight simulator (the "ultimate" compatibility tester).

I believe it goes  in the 6-9k range.

Since I am at Wang Institue, I have no affiliation with Wang Labs
other than being an occasionally happy user.
-- 
Sid Shapiro -- Wang Institute of Graduate Studies
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wcs@ho95e.UUCP (Bill.Stewart.4K435.x0705) (09/13/85)

> In article <750@gitpyr.UUCP> kevin@gitpyr.UUCP (Kevin Campbell) writes:
> >I have a friend who is in need of some information, and he doesn't have 
> >access to USENET.
> >  He wants to know if there is a micro that supports MSDOS *and* UNIX?
> >(or possibly Xenix).. Also, what are the basic differences between
> >Unix & Xenix?
Do you mean "The hardware can do MSDOS or UNIX depending on what data is on
your disks" (in which case almost any PC compatible will do", or
	"You can have MSDOS stuff and UNIX stuff of the same disk, but
only one OS is active at a time" (VENIX-86 will handle this, for PC
compatibles; you can partition a hard disk so VENIX gets 8 meg and MSDOS gets
2 Meg.  Alternatively, for most PC UNIX versions, you can give UNIX the
entire disk, and boot/run from floppies if you want MSDOS.  Or you could get
a Bernoulli Box or Sunflower 10-Meg removable disk, and pop in the disk for
whichever OS you feel like running.)
	Or do you mean something like "You boot up UNIX, but if you
want to run an MSDOS application while UNIX is active you can".  There are
several boards made for this sort of thing (I don't know their names) like
68000 boards that plug into a PC bus and run UNIX, or 80*86 boards that
plug into the PC bus and run MSDOS (normally faster than a vanilla IBM-PC)
which would probably let you run UNIX on the main PC and MSDOS on the add-on.
But basically you're talking weird here.
-- 
## Bill Stewart, AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ 1-201-949-0705 ihnp4!ho95c!wcs

wcs@ho95e.UUCP (Bill.Stewart.4K435.x0705) (09/14/85)

> > In article <750@gitpyr.UUCP> kevin@gitpyr.UUCP (Kevin Campbell) writes:
> > >I have a friend who is in need of some information, and he doesn't have 
> > >access to USENET.
> > >  He wants to know if there is a micro that supports MSDOS *and* UNIX?
> > >(or possibly Xenix).. Also, what are the basic differences between
> > >Unix & Xenix?
> Do you mean "The hardware can do MSDOS or UNIX depending on what data is on
> your disks" (in which case almost any PC compatible will do", or
> 	"You can have MSDOS stuff and UNIX stuff of the same disk, but
> only one OS is active at a time" (VENIX-86 will handle this, for PC
> compatibles; you can partition a hard disk so VENIX gets 8 meg and MSDOS gets
> 2 Meg.  Alternatively, for most PC UNIX versions, you can give UNIX the
> entire disk, and boot/run from floppies if you want MSDOS.  Or you could get
> a Bernoulli Box or Sunflower 10-Meg removable disk, and pop in the disk for
> whichever OS you feel like running.)
> 	Or do you mean something like "You boot up UNIX, but if you
> want to run an MSDOS application while UNIX is active you can".  There are
> several boards made for this sort of thing (I don't know their names) like
> 68000 boards that plug into a PC bus and run UNIX, or 80*86 boards that
> plug into the PC bus and run MSDOS (normally faster than a vanilla IBM-PC)
> which would probably let you run UNIX on the main PC and MSDOS on the add-on.
> But basically you're talking weird here.
> -- 
> ## Bill Stewart, AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ 1-201-949-0705 ihnp4!ho95c!wcs

Foo! Open my big mouth and see what it gets me.  I was just cleaning off my
desk and found a blurb related to that last item.

From Unisource Software, 71 Bent Street, Cambridge MA 02141 1-617-491-1264:
	"THE CONNECTOR(tm) is a new program that allow DOS applications 
	to run under the UNIX System.
		VENIX Version
		PC/IX Version"

It goes on to say that The Connector is a one-diskette program that
can be loaded onto your hard disk.  You can set things up to boot in
DOS or boot in UNIX; you type "unix" to go from DOS to Unix, and "dos" 
to go from UNIX to DOS.  You can also run DOS programs directly form
UNIX "by creating a special link".  I assume this takes some work,
but you can then type "lotus" to run LOTUS 1-2-3 from UNIX.  You can
have UNIX process running in the background  while DOS things are running.

Price: $295
Availability: "September, 1984"  (I don't know when the blurb was printed)
Hardware:
	IBM PC/XT or  PC/AT with >=512K memory, 10M hard Disk, and
	PC/IX or VENIX plus PC-DOS.

I have no idea if it's been adapted to run on compatibles or not.
-- 
## Bill Stewart, AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ 1-201-949-0705 ihnp4!ho95c!wcs

bruce@ISM780.UUCP (09/15/85)

> /* Written 12:13 pm  Sep 13, 1985 by ss@wanginst in ISM780:net.micro */
> ...
> floppies, 20, 30, or 60MB hard disks.  It will run MSDOS, Xenix
> (Microsoft Sys III port), and In/x (Interactive systems Sys V port).
				^^^^
I believe the correct spelling is: IN/ix*

* IN/ix is a registered trademark of INTERACTIVE Systems Corp.

Bruce Adler                 {sdcrdcf,ucla-cs,vortex}!ism780!bruce
INTERACTIVE Systems Corp.   decvax!yale-co!ima!bruce
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