[comp.unix.ultrix] telnet problems in Ultrix 4.2

clive@racine.ACA.MCC.COM (Clive Dawson) (06/28/91)

I just upgraded my 3100 to Ultrix 4.2 and immediately discovered
a very annoying problem with telnet.  Somebody has apparently 
done us the "favor" of redefining several defaults.  For example,
CTRL-S, CTRL-Q, and CTRL-O no longer get passed through to
the remote host.  Emacs is rather crippled without these characters,
to say the least...

As can be seen with the "display" command, the new telnet has 
many more special characters defined.  Some of them are supposedly
controlled by the toggling of the 'localchars' variable.  However
the "toggle localchars" command does NOT toggle.

In order to regain CTRL-S and CTRL-Q for my own use, I have to use
the commands "set start off" and "set stop off"...EVERYTIME I run
telnet.  Does anybody know how to make this the default?  It would
be convenient if telnet recognized a .telnetrc file, but this doesn't
appear to be the case.

I find it hard to believe that this piece of software was tested
at all.  And could it really be the case that somebody went in and
changed defaults without providing a mechanism for the user to
change them back?  Naaaaahh...! 

Clive Dawson
MCC

se@IKP.Uni-Koeln.DE (Stefan Esser) (06/28/91)

In article <3099@racine.ACA.MCC.COM>, clive@racine.ACA.MCC.COM (Clive Dawson) writes:
|> I just upgraded my 3100 to Ultrix 4.2 and immediately discovered
|> a very annoying problem with telnet.  Somebody has apparently 
|> done us the "favor" of redefining several defaults.  For example,
|> CTRL-S, CTRL-Q, and CTRL-O no longer get passed through to
|> the remote host.  Emacs is rather crippled without these characters,
|> to say the least...

That's about the same kind of improvement as seen in 'dd'. 
DEC put in a 'multi volume' mode AND MADE IT THE DEFAULT !
That means that every single shell script for backup and other purposes 
has to be changed (add a 'conv=nomulti' option) !
In the beginning there was data lost at this site because we didn't expect 
such a silly default behaviour ...
There was recently a posting of csh scripts to copy distribution tapes.
Every call of 'dd' had this 'conv=nomulti', no single use without this 
option added ...

Why did DEC make 'multi volume' the default behaviour ?
If I could *optionally* switch to multi volume mode by 'conv=multi' 
everything were fine. 
Is there a chance its changed back to be compatible with everybody else ?

Sometimes I get the impression that DEC is more interested in making 
Ultrix VMS compatible (providing interfaces to VMS) than in keeping it 
UNIX compatible ...

Stefan
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 Stefan Esser,  Institute of Nuclear Physics,  University of Cologne,  Germany
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