[comp.sys.encore] How do you have your Multimax communicate with an IBM?

prc@erbe.se (Robert Claeson) (08/26/89)

	I'm interested in knowing what ways there are to have a Multimax
	communicate with an IBM 370 and possibly also S/36, S/38 and
	AS/400. I'm specifically interested in terminal emulation and
	LU 6.2 communication, but other things like file transfer and
	electronic mail are also interesting.


-- 
          Robert Claeson      E-mail: rclaeson@erbe.se
	  ERBE DATA AB

jb@CS.BROWN.EDU (08/26/89)

There is TCP/IP for IBM 370s.  With this, you have telnet (actually a
program called tn3270 which handles 3270 emulation), smtp and ftp.
I don't know the details of the hardware, but an ethernet interface
may be hooked up to a channel adapter.

				Jim

	I'm interested in knowing what ways there are to have a Multimax
	communicate with an IBM 370 and possibly also S/36, S/38 and
	AS/400. I'm specifically interested in terminal emulation and
	LU 6.2 communication, but other things like file transfer and
	electronic mail are also interesting.


-- 
          Robert Claeson      E-mail: rclaeson@erbe.se
	  ERBE DATA AB

csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) (09/04/89)

In article <8908252009.AA06947@tracy.cs.brown.edu> jb@CS.BROWN.EDU writes:
>There is TCP/IP for IBM 370s.

Last I heard, this was available only under VM.

<csg>

prc@erbe.se (Robert Claeson) (09/06/89)

In article <83131@pyramid.pyramid.com> csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) writes:
>In article <8908252009.AA06947@tracy.cs.brown.edu> jb@CS.BROWN.EDU writes:
>>There is TCP/IP for IBM 370s.

>Last I heard, this was available only under VM.

I need to communicate with a mainframe running MVS/XA and an AS/400
running OS/400 (whatever that is). The applications include IPC (front-end
running on the local systems with the back-end on the mainframe), e-mail,
terminal emulation for login to the IBM's and RJE.

I've heard about a box from Mitek that should be connected to an Ethernet
(with TCP/IP) and an SNA network, but it is very expensive and depends
on host software that isn't available at all for UNIX now (only MVS and
VMS), and will only be for Ultrix, AIX and SunOS (the last I heard).
-- 
          Robert Claeson      E-mail: rclaeson@erbe.se
	  ERBE DATA AB

bzs@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Barry Shein) (09/06/89)

The best bet is probably to try to put TCP/IP onto the IBM systems
rather than finding SNA protocol converters (ahem, SAA...) for the
Encore. Then again it all depends specifically on what you want to do,
you might be able to find a fairly straightforward way to just do 3270
emulation by some more direct route (TCP and a few 3270 boards on a
'386 rather than the mainframes might be enough, for example, though
not elegant, nah, that probably won't quite work.)

Appended below are some vendors I found in the Internet Vendor's Guide
who seemed to be selling something relevant for either MVS or
AS/400's, the guide is compiled by the SRI NIC and available for
anonymous FTP in the NETINFO: directory, some of this is probably out
of date:

2.17.2.1. ACC ACCES/MVS

PRODUCT-OR-PACKAGE-NAME:    ACCES/MVS

DESCRIPTION:

       The    ACCES/MVS   software   program   is   a   full-service
    communication sub-system for the DoD Internet  protocols,  which
    execute on an IBM type mainframe under the MVS operating system.
    ACCES/MVS includes all  Internet-specific  protocol  code  which
    when  combined  with  ACC's  ACS  9305  or  ACS  9310 provides a
    full-service host interface to the DDN or to  a  Ethernet  local
    area  network.    Services  supported  include client and server
    SMTP, client and server FTP, client and server Telnet,  TCP  and
    IP,  ICMP  and  UDP.    ACCES/MVS  can be installed under either
    MVS/SP  or  MVS/XA  with  no  operating   system   modification.
    Interprocess communication is accomplished with ACF/VTAM.

DOCUMENTATION:

       Fully   documented  vendor  product;  descriptive  literature
    available

MACHINE-TYPE/CPU:

       IBM-370, 43xx, 30xx, and any IBM compatible machine

O/S:

       MVS/SP or MVS/XA with ACF/VTAM

DISTRIBUTOR:

       ACC (Advanced Computer Communications)
       720 Santa Barbara Street
       Santa Barbara, CA 93101

CONTACT:

       Technical Marketing: Jim Thrower, IBM Product Manager,  (805)
    963-9431

ORDERING-PROCEDURE:

       Vendor product; contact sales department

PROPRIETY-STATUS:

       Proprietary product of ACC

INFORMATION-UPDATED:

       August 1986


2.17.2.2. ADVINTECH MVS HFS

PRODUCT-OR-PACKAGE-NAME:   HFS

DESCRIPTION:

       ADVINTECH  corporation  builds  and  supports  products  that
    extend the Defense Data Network (DDN).  The ADVINTECH  TAC,  FEP
    and  HFS  interconnect  IBM  3270  or compatible SNA/SDLC or BSC
    terminal controllers and devices to IBM or PCM MVS-VTAM computer
    systems  on  the  DDN  providing  native mode terminal operation
    (3270  Data  Stream)  with  the  host  and  the  full  suite  of
    Department  of Defense (DoD) protocols.  ADVINTECH also provides
    products that connect IEEE 802.3 Local Area  Networks  with  IBM
    MVS  systems  and  the DDN.  These products are TCP/IP based and
    fully interoperable.

       Host Full Service (HFS) software runs on an IBM computer that
    utilizes   the   IBM  MVS  operating  system  and  the  ACF/VTAM
    communications access method.  HFS  provides  the  TCP/IP  (thru
    Service  Access  Protocol Interface (SAPI)), Telnet NVT, FTP and
    SMTP protocols  needed  for  the  host  computer  to  deliver  a
    "Full-Service" DDN offering.  HFS also provides support services
    for ADVINTECH's TAC and FEP in the form of the software downline
    loading, statistics gathering capability, and remote maintenance
    commands.

       HFS Product Summary:

       The  DoD  upper  layer  protocols  adhere  to  a  User-Server
    structure  where  (in  each  of the three upper layer protocols,
    Telnet NVT, FTP and SMTP).  The User  process,  usually  in  one
    computer,   initiates   a  dialog  (following  the  upper  layer
    protocol) with a Server process, usually  in  another  computer.
    By  following  the  conventions  defined  in  each  upper  layer
    protocol these User-Server process pairs accomplish  their  data
    communications  tasks.    Telnet  Network Virtual Terminal (NVT)
    allows a terminal user in one system  to  have  terminal-to-host
    dialog  with  another  system  regardless  of  the real terminal
    attributes.  File Transfer Protocol (FTP)  allows  files  to  be
    transferred  between two computer systems.  Simple Mail Transfer
    Protocol (SMTP) transfers mail to and from  user  mailboxes  (on
    files) on cooperating systems.

       Within  IBM's  MVS  operating system, under TSO (Time-Sharing
    Options), ADVINTECH's HFS software provides Telnet NVT User, FTP
    User  and  SMTP  User  processes  as TSO commands.  This permits
    interactive users on one MVS computer system to directly utilize
    these  DDN Full Service capabilities in communication with other
    DDN Full Service host computers.    Within  the  HFS  subsystem,
    ADVINTECH's  HFS  software  provides  the Telnet NVT Server, FTP
    Server and SMTP Server processes so  users  on  other  DDN  Full
    Service  computer  systems  can  communicate  with this MVS host

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    using these higher level communications services.    ADVINTECH's
    TAC  provides a Telnet NVT User process so terminals attached to
    the TAC can utilize the higher  level  protocol  to  communicate
    with DDN Full Service hosts regardless of the manufacturer.

       HFS  uses the Service Access Protocol (SAP) via two dedicated
    VTAM 3270 SNA sessions between the  FEP3270  and  HFS  for  data
    paths  in  support  of these server facilities in the host.  One
    data path is for inbound ADVINTECH DDN traffic and one data path
    is outbound for ADVINTECH DDN traffic.

       This basic structure allows the TCP/IP control to be resident
    in the FEP, yet the session startup/shutdown  and  data  I/O  is
    available  in  the  host.    Once in the host at that level, the
    higher level protocols are implemented.

       HFS also contains DDN  data  communication  support  for  MVS
    application  programs through dialog with the HFS subsystem as a
    sequential file (VSAM ESDS, BSAM or QSAM).  This I/O  capability
    is  accomplished  through the use of the MVS SubSystem Interface
    (SSI).  The HFS subsystem, using the SSI in concert with its Job
    Control  Language  (JCL)  exit  and  I/O  reaction capabilities,
    builds and responds to the key control block  parameters.    The
    session  establishment  parameters are placed on the Job Control
    Language (JCL) statements using the SUBSYS= capabilities.

       This combination allows these file access methods (VSAM ESDS,
    BSAM  and  QSAM)  to  accomplish  their open, close, read, write
    (e.g. GET, PUT, CHECK) functions without any modifications.  The
    HFS  subsystem  allows  the  I/O to be transmitted as DDN TCP/IP
    sessions across the  DDN.    The  HFS  subsystem  and  the  user
    interface   are   built   on  IBM-supported  interfaces  without
    modifications to MVS.   The  application  programming  interface
    (API) uses standard file access methods.

DOCUMENTATION:

       HFS Reference manual

MACHINE-TYPE/CPU:

       No  CPU  Requirement.    HFS runs on IBM MVS Operating System
    based on the 370 architecture, including all the 3000 series and
    4000 series and their plug compatible counterparts.

O/S:

       MVS

IMPLEMENTATION-LANGUAGE:

       Predominantly C, some Assembly

DISTRIBUTOR:

       ADVINTECH Corporation
       5185 MacArthur Blvd., N.W.
       Washington, D.C.  20016

CONTACT:

       Sales  Department, (202) 895-4150, (800) 638-9296, Fax# (202)
    966-3650

ORDERING-PROCEDURE:

       Call for details.

PROPRIETY-STATUS:

       All Products Proprietary

INFORMATION-UPDATED:

       February 1988


2.17.2.3. Fibronics KNET TCP/MVS

PRODUCT OR PACKAGE NAME:    KNET TCP/MVS

DESCRIPTION:

       KNET TCP/MVS  is  a  TCP/IP-based  network  software  package
    supporting the Ethernet local area network and all SNA supported
    links.  KNET conforms to the ISO/OSI Reference Model for layered
    network  architecture  and  runs  as  a  started  task under the
    control of MVS.  (See also, "Fibronics K200"  and/or  "Fibronics
    K310" described in the Hardware Section of this document).

       Services  supported  include client and server TELNET, client
    and server FTP, and client and  server  TFTP.    An  application
    interface  to  TCP virtual circuits and UDP datagram circuits is
    also available.  In addition, the following  small  servers  are
    available  for  UDP: time, discard, echo, name, and quote of the
    day.   Support  for  TCP  echo  and  discard  services  is  also
    provided.    Telnet  access  to all MVS services is provided via
    3270 emulation.  Telnet access support for "TN3270 mode" is also
    provided.    Support  is provided under FTP for both binary mode
    and for NETASCII.  Automatic data conversion  to/from  ASCII  to
    EBCDIC is supported.  No modification of MVS is required.

DOCUMENTATION:

       Available from vendor

MACHINE-TYPE/CPU:

       IBM 370 class or equivalent

O/S:

       MVS/SP Release 1.3 or later, operating system with VTAM

IMPLEMENTATION-LANGUAGE:

       Assembler and C

DISTRIBUTOR:

       Fibronics International, Inc.
       Communications Way
       Hyannis, MA 02601-1892

CONTACT:

       Inside Sales, (617) 778-0700

PROPRIETY-STATUS:

       Source code is not available for purchase.

INFORMATION-UPDATED:

       February 1988

2.17.2.7. Mitek Systems TELNET/FTP CLIENTS, FTP SERVER and FTP BATCH

PRODUCT-OR-PACKAGE-NAME:  TELNET/FTP CLIENTS, FTP SERVER and FTP BATCH
                        ENHANCEMENT FOR MVS

DESCRIPTION:

       Mitek's TELNET/FTP Clients are IBM host software options that
    execute as TSO commands.  Since both applications  reside  under
    TSO,  the  standard IBM environment is preserved.  Communication
    is provided to the  IBM  systems  through  VTAM.    Mitek's  SNA
    Network  Server  attaches  to  the  IBM host as an IBM PU type 2
    device and provides the SNA to TCP/IP network interface.

       Mitek's TSO TELNET Client application allows a 3270  terminal
    to  emulate a line-mode terminal on the TCP/IP network.  In this
    mode, the 3270 terminal has access to all applications on any of
    the TCP/IP network processors or other gateways such as DDN that
    support TELNET terminals.   The  TELNET  Client  application  is
    accessible from any terminal on the SNA network.

       With  Mitek's  TSO  FTP  Client  application,  files  can  be
    transferred to or from any processor on the TCP/IP network.  Any
    3270  on  the  SNA  network,  any terminal using Mitek's PS 3270
    emulation on the TCP/IP network, or any terminal  using  Mitek's
    TELNET  Server can initiate the FTP File Transfer.  The FTP File
    Transfer  feature  had  options  for  source  or   binary   code
    transmission and for insertion or stripping of carriage returns.

       Like  the  FTP Client, the FTP Batch enhancement under MVS is
    used to transfer files to or from  any  processor  on  a  TCP/IP
    network.    However,  FTP  Batch allows the user to sequentially
    transfer numerous files automatically, rather than interactively
    transfer one file at a time.

       Mitek's  FTP  Server  resides on the IBM host and carries out
    file transfer requests from Ethernet hosts.

DOCUMENTATION:

       Available from vendor

IMPLEMENTATION-LANGUAGE:

       C

DISTRIBUTOR:

       Mitek Systems Corp.
       2033 Chennault Drive
       Suite 100
       Carrollton, TX  75006

CONTACT:

       Cleve Graves, (214) 490-4090

ORDERING-PROCEDURE:

       Available from vendor

PROPRIETY-STATUS:

       Proprietary product of Mitek Systems Corp.

INFORMATION-UPDATED:

       August 1988

2.17.2.10. Network Solutions OPEN-Link for IBM/MVS

PRODUCT-OR-PACKAGE-NAME:  OPEN-Link for IBM/MVS

DESCRIPTION:

       Network  Solutions,  Inc.  provides  the  DoD  Community with
    OPEN-Link,  a  fully  integrated  DDN  and  Ethernet   interface
    solution  that provides the DoD Internet protocols (TCP/IP, FTP,
    TELNET and SMTP) and technical support  services  for  IBM  host
    computers running the MVS operating system.  Additional features
    include a programmatic interface to FTP, interfaces to  standard
    MVS security packages, and support for 3270 full screen terminal
    emulation over TELNET.  The interface solution  is  composed  of
    OPEN-Link  host resident software, pre-installation site survey,
    installation,  integration   support,   maintenance,   technical
    services   and  a  90  day  warranty.    OPEN-Link  is  hardware
    independent and is  currently  working  with  ACC,  Comten,  IBM
    Series/1  hardware  interfaces.    All of these provide the user
    with a DCA fully qualified X.25 interface.  Ethernet support  is
    provided   by   the   channel-attached   OL/1220   Ethernet  LAN
    controller.

DOCUMENTATION:

       One full set of documentation is provided with  the  product;
    additional documentation may be purchased.

MACHINE-TYPE/CPU:

       IBM S/370, 43xx, 303x, 308x, 309x and PCMs

O/S:

       MVS/SP version 1 with ACF/VTAM Release 1.3

IMPLEMENTATION-LANGUAGE:

       Assembly

DISTRIBUTOR:

       Network Solutions
       Products Group
       8229 Boone Blvd., 7th floor
       Vienna, VA 22180

CONTACT:

    Technical: Gwen Savanillas, (703) 749-0150

ORDERING-PROCEDURE:

       Submit purchase order to above address; see above contact for
    pricing.

PROPRIETY-STATUS:

       Network Solutions proprietary

DDN-QUALIFIED:

       Yes

INFORMATION-UPDATED:

       August 1988

2.17.2.13. Simware Inc. SIM3278

PRODUCT-OR-PACKAGE-NAME:   SIM3278

DESCRIPTION:

       SIM3278 is a host based protocol conversion software  package
    which   provides   remote  PC  and  ASCII  terminal  users  with
    full-screen 3270 access to VM, MVS/VTAM & GCS/VTAM  applications
    over cost-effective dialup, X.25 & DDN networks.

DOCUMENTATION:

       One full set of documentation is provided with the product.

MACHINE-TYPE/CPU:

       IBM  S/370, 43XX, 30XX and plug compatible such as Amdahl and
    NAS

O/S:

       Operates in the VM, MVS/VTAM and GCS/VTAM environments

IMPLEMENTATION-LANGUAGE:

       Assembler

DISTRIBUTOR:

       Simware Inc.
       20 Colonnade Road
       Ottawa, Ontario
       K2E 7M6

CONTACT:

       Bruce Laforest, (613) 727-1779

ORDERING-PROCEDURE:

       Submit purchase order to above address

PROPRIETY-STATUS:

       Simware Inc.

INFORMATION-UPDATED:

       February 1989
3.38.5.3. Mitek Connectivity Solutions for the IBM Application

PRODUCT-OR-PACKAGE-NAME:  Connectivity Solutions for the IBM Application
                        System/400 (AS/400)

DESCRIPTION:

       Mitek   extends  connectivity  from  your  AS/400  to  TCP/IP
    networks with a special line of hardware and software solutions.
    These   product   solutions  provide  bi-directional  logon  and
    bi-directional file transfer capabilities.  Mitek  utilizes  the
    government  standard communications architecture known as TCP/IP
    (Transmission  Control  Protocol/Internet  Protocol)  which  can
    coexist  on  an  Ethernet LAN along with other protocols such as
    DECnet.   The  Ethernet  hosts  supported  by  Mitek's  software
    products  include:  DEC  VAX, AT&T 3B, SUN Microsystems, Apollo,
    Tektronix, Hewlett-Packard, IBM PC, AT, RT, XT, and PS/2.    You
    choose the solution that's right for your configuration:

       - SNA  Network  Server  Model M2130 Mitek's M2130 provides a
         physical gateway between the AS/400 and an  Ethernet  LAN.
         The  M2130 appears to the AS/400 as a standard SNA control
         unit and performs data translation between the SNA and the
         TCP/IP protocols.  Speeds up to 256K bps are supported.

       - TELNET  Client (TERMINAL APPLICATION ACCESS) Telnet client
         resides on the AS/400 and provides  access  capability  to
         the  TCP/IP  host applications.  This product communicates
         with the  standard  TCP/IP  terminal  application,  TELNET
         Server.

       - FTP  Client  (FILE  TRANSFER)  FTP  Client  resides on the
         AS/400 and provides you with  the  capability  to  create,
         delete,  and  extend  files  with  options  for ASCII text
         conversions  or  binary  data  transmission.    Exits  are
         provided  so  that  you may write you own data base access
         routines as part of  the  file  transfer.    The  security
         systems  of  the  AS/400  and the TCP/IP network hosts are
         supported.

         FTP Client also includes an extended command feature which
         allows  you to enter a simple command in order to transfer
         multiple files between multiple systems.  This feature can
         be used interactively as well as in a batch environment.

       - TELNET  Server  Telnet  Server is an optional feature that
         resides on the M2130.    This  application  provides  3270
         terminal  emulation.  TELNET Server allows TCP/IP Ethernet
         hosts to have access to the AS/400.   The  server  handles
         requests  from  a  TELNET  Client  on any TCP/IP hosts and
         translates the ASCII data stream into a 3270 data stream.

       - 3270  Presentation  Services  3270  Presentation  Services
         resides  on  TCP/IP  Ethernet  hosts and provides enhanced
         3270 emulation.  A special feature of this product is  the
         Application  Program  Interface  (API).    A  user written
         program using the API can access  the  AS/400  as  if  the
         application  were  an operator at a local display station.
         It allows emulator sessions  to  runh  unattended.    3270
         Presentation  Services is a family of products designed to
         ooperate with specific operating systems.

DOCUMENTATION:

       Available from Vendor

IMPLEMENTATION-LANGUAGE:

       C

DISTRIBUTOR:

       Mitek Systems Corp.
       2033 Chennault Drive
       Suite 100
       Carrollton, TX  75006

CONTACT:

       Cleve Graves, (214) 490-4090

ORDERING-PROCEDURE:

       Available from vendor

PROPRIETY-STATUS:

       Proprietary product of Mitek Systems Corp.

INFORMATION-UPDATED:

       August 1988
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