prc@erbe.se (Robert Claeson) (08/26/89)
I'm interested in knowing what ways there are to have a Multimax communicate with an IBM 370 and possibly also S/36, S/38 and AS/400. I'm specifically interested in terminal emulation and LU 6.2 communication, but other things like file transfer and electronic mail are also interesting. -- Robert Claeson E-mail: rclaeson@erbe.se ERBE DATA AB
jb@CS.BROWN.EDU (08/26/89)
There is TCP/IP for IBM 370s. With this, you have telnet (actually a program called tn3270 which handles 3270 emulation), smtp and ftp. I don't know the details of the hardware, but an ethernet interface may be hooked up to a channel adapter. Jim I'm interested in knowing what ways there are to have a Multimax communicate with an IBM 370 and possibly also S/36, S/38 and AS/400. I'm specifically interested in terminal emulation and LU 6.2 communication, but other things like file transfer and electronic mail are also interesting. -- Robert Claeson E-mail: rclaeson@erbe.se ERBE DATA AB
csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) (09/04/89)
In article <8908252009.AA06947@tracy.cs.brown.edu> jb@CS.BROWN.EDU writes: >There is TCP/IP for IBM 370s. Last I heard, this was available only under VM. <csg>
prc@erbe.se (Robert Claeson) (09/06/89)
In article <83131@pyramid.pyramid.com> csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) writes: >In article <8908252009.AA06947@tracy.cs.brown.edu> jb@CS.BROWN.EDU writes: >>There is TCP/IP for IBM 370s. >Last I heard, this was available only under VM. I need to communicate with a mainframe running MVS/XA and an AS/400 running OS/400 (whatever that is). The applications include IPC (front-end running on the local systems with the back-end on the mainframe), e-mail, terminal emulation for login to the IBM's and RJE. I've heard about a box from Mitek that should be connected to an Ethernet (with TCP/IP) and an SNA network, but it is very expensive and depends on host software that isn't available at all for UNIX now (only MVS and VMS), and will only be for Ultrix, AIX and SunOS (the last I heard). -- Robert Claeson E-mail: rclaeson@erbe.se ERBE DATA AB
bzs@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Barry Shein) (09/06/89)
The best bet is probably to try to put TCP/IP onto the IBM systems rather than finding SNA protocol converters (ahem, SAA...) for the Encore. Then again it all depends specifically on what you want to do, you might be able to find a fairly straightforward way to just do 3270 emulation by some more direct route (TCP and a few 3270 boards on a '386 rather than the mainframes might be enough, for example, though not elegant, nah, that probably won't quite work.) Appended below are some vendors I found in the Internet Vendor's Guide who seemed to be selling something relevant for either MVS or AS/400's, the guide is compiled by the SRI NIC and available for anonymous FTP in the NETINFO: directory, some of this is probably out of date: 2.17.2.1. ACC ACCES/MVS PRODUCT-OR-PACKAGE-NAME: ACCES/MVS DESCRIPTION: The ACCES/MVS software program is a full-service communication sub-system for the DoD Internet protocols, which execute on an IBM type mainframe under the MVS operating system. ACCES/MVS includes all Internet-specific protocol code which when combined with ACC's ACS 9305 or ACS 9310 provides a full-service host interface to the DDN or to a Ethernet local area network. Services supported include client and server SMTP, client and server FTP, client and server Telnet, TCP and IP, ICMP and UDP. ACCES/MVS can be installed under either MVS/SP or MVS/XA with no operating system modification. Interprocess communication is accomplished with ACF/VTAM. DOCUMENTATION: Fully documented vendor product; descriptive literature available MACHINE-TYPE/CPU: IBM-370, 43xx, 30xx, and any IBM compatible machine O/S: MVS/SP or MVS/XA with ACF/VTAM DISTRIBUTOR: ACC (Advanced Computer Communications) 720 Santa Barbara Street Santa Barbara, CA 93101 CONTACT: Technical Marketing: Jim Thrower, IBM Product Manager, (805) 963-9431 ORDERING-PROCEDURE: Vendor product; contact sales department PROPRIETY-STATUS: Proprietary product of ACC INFORMATION-UPDATED: August 1986 2.17.2.2. ADVINTECH MVS HFS PRODUCT-OR-PACKAGE-NAME: HFS DESCRIPTION: ADVINTECH corporation builds and supports products that extend the Defense Data Network (DDN). The ADVINTECH TAC, FEP and HFS interconnect IBM 3270 or compatible SNA/SDLC or BSC terminal controllers and devices to IBM or PCM MVS-VTAM computer systems on the DDN providing native mode terminal operation (3270 Data Stream) with the host and the full suite of Department of Defense (DoD) protocols. ADVINTECH also provides products that connect IEEE 802.3 Local Area Networks with IBM MVS systems and the DDN. These products are TCP/IP based and fully interoperable. Host Full Service (HFS) software runs on an IBM computer that utilizes the IBM MVS operating system and the ACF/VTAM communications access method. HFS provides the TCP/IP (thru Service Access Protocol Interface (SAPI)), Telnet NVT, FTP and SMTP protocols needed for the host computer to deliver a "Full-Service" DDN offering. HFS also provides support services for ADVINTECH's TAC and FEP in the form of the software downline loading, statistics gathering capability, and remote maintenance commands. HFS Product Summary: The DoD upper layer protocols adhere to a User-Server structure where (in each of the three upper layer protocols, Telnet NVT, FTP and SMTP). The User process, usually in one computer, initiates a dialog (following the upper layer protocol) with a Server process, usually in another computer. By following the conventions defined in each upper layer protocol these User-Server process pairs accomplish their data communications tasks. Telnet Network Virtual Terminal (NVT) allows a terminal user in one system to have terminal-to-host dialog with another system regardless of the real terminal attributes. File Transfer Protocol (FTP) allows files to be transferred between two computer systems. Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) transfers mail to and from user mailboxes (on files) on cooperating systems. Within IBM's MVS operating system, under TSO (Time-Sharing Options), ADVINTECH's HFS software provides Telnet NVT User, FTP User and SMTP User processes as TSO commands. This permits interactive users on one MVS computer system to directly utilize these DDN Full Service capabilities in communication with other DDN Full Service host computers. Within the HFS subsystem, ADVINTECH's HFS software provides the Telnet NVT Server, FTP Server and SMTP Server processes so users on other DDN Full Service computer systems can communicate with this MVS host 193 using these higher level communications services. ADVINTECH's TAC provides a Telnet NVT User process so terminals attached to the TAC can utilize the higher level protocol to communicate with DDN Full Service hosts regardless of the manufacturer. HFS uses the Service Access Protocol (SAP) via two dedicated VTAM 3270 SNA sessions between the FEP3270 and HFS for data paths in support of these server facilities in the host. One data path is for inbound ADVINTECH DDN traffic and one data path is outbound for ADVINTECH DDN traffic. This basic structure allows the TCP/IP control to be resident in the FEP, yet the session startup/shutdown and data I/O is available in the host. Once in the host at that level, the higher level protocols are implemented. HFS also contains DDN data communication support for MVS application programs through dialog with the HFS subsystem as a sequential file (VSAM ESDS, BSAM or QSAM). This I/O capability is accomplished through the use of the MVS SubSystem Interface (SSI). The HFS subsystem, using the SSI in concert with its Job Control Language (JCL) exit and I/O reaction capabilities, builds and responds to the key control block parameters. The session establishment parameters are placed on the Job Control Language (JCL) statements using the SUBSYS= capabilities. This combination allows these file access methods (VSAM ESDS, BSAM and QSAM) to accomplish their open, close, read, write (e.g. GET, PUT, CHECK) functions without any modifications. The HFS subsystem allows the I/O to be transmitted as DDN TCP/IP sessions across the DDN. The HFS subsystem and the user interface are built on IBM-supported interfaces without modifications to MVS. The application programming interface (API) uses standard file access methods. DOCUMENTATION: HFS Reference manual MACHINE-TYPE/CPU: No CPU Requirement. HFS runs on IBM MVS Operating System based on the 370 architecture, including all the 3000 series and 4000 series and their plug compatible counterparts. O/S: MVS IMPLEMENTATION-LANGUAGE: Predominantly C, some Assembly DISTRIBUTOR: ADVINTECH Corporation 5185 MacArthur Blvd., N.W. Washington, D.C. 20016 CONTACT: Sales Department, (202) 895-4150, (800) 638-9296, Fax# (202) 966-3650 ORDERING-PROCEDURE: Call for details. PROPRIETY-STATUS: All Products Proprietary INFORMATION-UPDATED: February 1988 2.17.2.3. Fibronics KNET TCP/MVS PRODUCT OR PACKAGE NAME: KNET TCP/MVS DESCRIPTION: KNET TCP/MVS is a TCP/IP-based network software package supporting the Ethernet local area network and all SNA supported links. KNET conforms to the ISO/OSI Reference Model for layered network architecture and runs as a started task under the control of MVS. (See also, "Fibronics K200" and/or "Fibronics K310" described in the Hardware Section of this document). Services supported include client and server TELNET, client and server FTP, and client and server TFTP. An application interface to TCP virtual circuits and UDP datagram circuits is also available. In addition, the following small servers are available for UDP: time, discard, echo, name, and quote of the day. Support for TCP echo and discard services is also provided. Telnet access to all MVS services is provided via 3270 emulation. Telnet access support for "TN3270 mode" is also provided. Support is provided under FTP for both binary mode and for NETASCII. Automatic data conversion to/from ASCII to EBCDIC is supported. No modification of MVS is required. DOCUMENTATION: Available from vendor MACHINE-TYPE/CPU: IBM 370 class or equivalent O/S: MVS/SP Release 1.3 or later, operating system with VTAM IMPLEMENTATION-LANGUAGE: Assembler and C DISTRIBUTOR: Fibronics International, Inc. Communications Way Hyannis, MA 02601-1892 CONTACT: Inside Sales, (617) 778-0700 PROPRIETY-STATUS: Source code is not available for purchase. INFORMATION-UPDATED: February 1988 2.17.2.7. Mitek Systems TELNET/FTP CLIENTS, FTP SERVER and FTP BATCH PRODUCT-OR-PACKAGE-NAME: TELNET/FTP CLIENTS, FTP SERVER and FTP BATCH ENHANCEMENT FOR MVS DESCRIPTION: Mitek's TELNET/FTP Clients are IBM host software options that execute as TSO commands. Since both applications reside under TSO, the standard IBM environment is preserved. Communication is provided to the IBM systems through VTAM. Mitek's SNA Network Server attaches to the IBM host as an IBM PU type 2 device and provides the SNA to TCP/IP network interface. Mitek's TSO TELNET Client application allows a 3270 terminal to emulate a line-mode terminal on the TCP/IP network. In this mode, the 3270 terminal has access to all applications on any of the TCP/IP network processors or other gateways such as DDN that support TELNET terminals. The TELNET Client application is accessible from any terminal on the SNA network. With Mitek's TSO FTP Client application, files can be transferred to or from any processor on the TCP/IP network. Any 3270 on the SNA network, any terminal using Mitek's PS 3270 emulation on the TCP/IP network, or any terminal using Mitek's TELNET Server can initiate the FTP File Transfer. The FTP File Transfer feature had options for source or binary code transmission and for insertion or stripping of carriage returns. Like the FTP Client, the FTP Batch enhancement under MVS is used to transfer files to or from any processor on a TCP/IP network. However, FTP Batch allows the user to sequentially transfer numerous files automatically, rather than interactively transfer one file at a time. Mitek's FTP Server resides on the IBM host and carries out file transfer requests from Ethernet hosts. DOCUMENTATION: Available from vendor IMPLEMENTATION-LANGUAGE: C DISTRIBUTOR: Mitek Systems Corp. 2033 Chennault Drive Suite 100 Carrollton, TX 75006 CONTACT: Cleve Graves, (214) 490-4090 ORDERING-PROCEDURE: Available from vendor PROPRIETY-STATUS: Proprietary product of Mitek Systems Corp. INFORMATION-UPDATED: August 1988 2.17.2.10. Network Solutions OPEN-Link for IBM/MVS PRODUCT-OR-PACKAGE-NAME: OPEN-Link for IBM/MVS DESCRIPTION: Network Solutions, Inc. provides the DoD Community with OPEN-Link, a fully integrated DDN and Ethernet interface solution that provides the DoD Internet protocols (TCP/IP, FTP, TELNET and SMTP) and technical support services for IBM host computers running the MVS operating system. Additional features include a programmatic interface to FTP, interfaces to standard MVS security packages, and support for 3270 full screen terminal emulation over TELNET. The interface solution is composed of OPEN-Link host resident software, pre-installation site survey, installation, integration support, maintenance, technical services and a 90 day warranty. OPEN-Link is hardware independent and is currently working with ACC, Comten, IBM Series/1 hardware interfaces. All of these provide the user with a DCA fully qualified X.25 interface. Ethernet support is provided by the channel-attached OL/1220 Ethernet LAN controller. DOCUMENTATION: One full set of documentation is provided with the product; additional documentation may be purchased. MACHINE-TYPE/CPU: IBM S/370, 43xx, 303x, 308x, 309x and PCMs O/S: MVS/SP version 1 with ACF/VTAM Release 1.3 IMPLEMENTATION-LANGUAGE: Assembly DISTRIBUTOR: Network Solutions Products Group 8229 Boone Blvd., 7th floor Vienna, VA 22180 CONTACT: Technical: Gwen Savanillas, (703) 749-0150 ORDERING-PROCEDURE: Submit purchase order to above address; see above contact for pricing. PROPRIETY-STATUS: Network Solutions proprietary DDN-QUALIFIED: Yes INFORMATION-UPDATED: August 1988 2.17.2.13. Simware Inc. SIM3278 PRODUCT-OR-PACKAGE-NAME: SIM3278 DESCRIPTION: SIM3278 is a host based protocol conversion software package which provides remote PC and ASCII terminal users with full-screen 3270 access to VM, MVS/VTAM & GCS/VTAM applications over cost-effective dialup, X.25 & DDN networks. DOCUMENTATION: One full set of documentation is provided with the product. MACHINE-TYPE/CPU: IBM S/370, 43XX, 30XX and plug compatible such as Amdahl and NAS O/S: Operates in the VM, MVS/VTAM and GCS/VTAM environments IMPLEMENTATION-LANGUAGE: Assembler DISTRIBUTOR: Simware Inc. 20 Colonnade Road Ottawa, Ontario K2E 7M6 CONTACT: Bruce Laforest, (613) 727-1779 ORDERING-PROCEDURE: Submit purchase order to above address PROPRIETY-STATUS: Simware Inc. INFORMATION-UPDATED: February 1989 3.38.5.3. Mitek Connectivity Solutions for the IBM Application PRODUCT-OR-PACKAGE-NAME: Connectivity Solutions for the IBM Application System/400 (AS/400) DESCRIPTION: Mitek extends connectivity from your AS/400 to TCP/IP networks with a special line of hardware and software solutions. These product solutions provide bi-directional logon and bi-directional file transfer capabilities. Mitek utilizes the government standard communications architecture known as TCP/IP (Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol) which can coexist on an Ethernet LAN along with other protocols such as DECnet. The Ethernet hosts supported by Mitek's software products include: DEC VAX, AT&T 3B, SUN Microsystems, Apollo, Tektronix, Hewlett-Packard, IBM PC, AT, RT, XT, and PS/2. You choose the solution that's right for your configuration: - SNA Network Server Model M2130 Mitek's M2130 provides a physical gateway between the AS/400 and an Ethernet LAN. The M2130 appears to the AS/400 as a standard SNA control unit and performs data translation between the SNA and the TCP/IP protocols. Speeds up to 256K bps are supported. - TELNET Client (TERMINAL APPLICATION ACCESS) Telnet client resides on the AS/400 and provides access capability to the TCP/IP host applications. This product communicates with the standard TCP/IP terminal application, TELNET Server. - FTP Client (FILE TRANSFER) FTP Client resides on the AS/400 and provides you with the capability to create, delete, and extend files with options for ASCII text conversions or binary data transmission. Exits are provided so that you may write you own data base access routines as part of the file transfer. The security systems of the AS/400 and the TCP/IP network hosts are supported. FTP Client also includes an extended command feature which allows you to enter a simple command in order to transfer multiple files between multiple systems. This feature can be used interactively as well as in a batch environment. - TELNET Server Telnet Server is an optional feature that resides on the M2130. This application provides 3270 terminal emulation. TELNET Server allows TCP/IP Ethernet hosts to have access to the AS/400. The server handles requests from a TELNET Client on any TCP/IP hosts and translates the ASCII data stream into a 3270 data stream. - 3270 Presentation Services 3270 Presentation Services resides on TCP/IP Ethernet hosts and provides enhanced 3270 emulation. A special feature of this product is the Application Program Interface (API). A user written program using the API can access the AS/400 as if the application were an operator at a local display station. It allows emulator sessions to runh unattended. 3270 Presentation Services is a family of products designed to ooperate with specific operating systems. DOCUMENTATION: Available from Vendor IMPLEMENTATION-LANGUAGE: C DISTRIBUTOR: Mitek Systems Corp. 2033 Chennault Drive Suite 100 Carrollton, TX 75006 CONTACT: Cleve Graves, (214) 490-4090 ORDERING-PROCEDURE: Available from vendor PROPRIETY-STATUS: Proprietary product of Mitek Systems Corp. INFORMATION-UPDATED: August 1988 -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die, Purveyors to the Trade 1330 Beacon Street, Brookline, MA 02146, (617) 739-0202 Internet: bzs@skuld.std.com UUCP: encore!xylogics!skuld!bzs or uunet!skuld!bzs