[net.news.group] net.biology

mark@elsie.UUCP (12/06/83)

We would most definitely be interested in a net.biology news group. Our
facility at the National Cancer Institute's Laboratory of Carcinogen
Metabolism is dedicated primarily to the totally automatic analysis of
two-dimensional gel electrophoretograms (O'Farrel gels). We also have some
programs to aid in nucleic acid research. We have a VAX 11/750 running 4.1 BSD
(up to 4.2 as soon as Berkeley sends us the tape).

We would be interested in hearing from and talking to other groups
involved in or curious about the computerized analysis of two-dimensional
gels. Other topics in biotechnology would also be of interest to us and
other groups around the NIH.

One last request: If such a group is started up, please let us try to
restrict its use to serious science. Socio-political discussions are best
put in net.flame, net.religion, net.misc, or any other group that I don't
subscribe to.
				..!cvl!elsie!mark

riddle@ut-sally.UUCP (Prentiss Riddle) (12/06/83)

 >> One last request: If such a group is started up, please let us try to
 >> restrict its use to serious science. Socio-political discussions are best
 >> put in net.flame, net.religion, net.misc, or any other group that I don't
 >> subscribe to.
 >> 				..!cvl!elsie!mark

This sounds a lot like the argument that led to the creation of
net.astro.expert (or even net.women.only! :-> ).  I sometimes
wonder about the elitist trend in certain newsgroups, but I suppose
I've got no real objection as long as interested non-experts have a
place to discuss things, too.  After all, not all of us want to
talk about analysis of two-dimensional gel electrophoretograms --
some of us are interested in things like evolution, population
genetics, or wildlife biology.

(I agree, by the way, that flaming non-scientific harangues would have
no place in net.biology.  I just wanted to point out that I, for one,
would enjoy a middle ground between "serious science" and "socio-political
discussions".)
----
Prentiss Riddle
{ihnp4,seismo,ctvax}!ut-sally!riddle
riddle@ut-sally.UUCP

yechiel@aecom.UUCP (Yechiel Corn) (12/08/83)

I vote yes for net.biology. Representing a Medical college, I am sure
that many of our users who are researchers would be interested in 
such a group.

						Michael Corn
						Albert Einstein College of Med.
						Bronx, NY

				{ pegasus,philabs,cucard }!aecom!yechiel

david@utzoo.UUCP (David Trueman) (12/08/83)

Another 'yes' vote for net.biology.  Our site is a general zoology department.
While most of the users of the system are relatively unsophisticated in
computer usage, there are a few exceptions, and such a group might bring more 
of them out of the woodwork.
-- 
				David Trueman @ U of Toronto Zoology
				{allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!david

rigney@uokvax.UUCP (12/13/83)

#R:elsie:-15100:uokvax:9300003:000:624
uokvax!rigney    Dec 11 18:08:00 1983

Perhaps there should be a  net.bio  and  a  net.bio.expert.   The
latter  could  be used to discuss gels and other serious matters,
while net.bio could be used by those just wanting some  place  to
chat  about  population pressure, the effects of genetics on man-
in-the-moon  marigolds,  and   whatever   else   attracts   their
attention:-)

This would allow expansion, if need be, to include net.bio.micro,
for microbiology fans, net.bio.marine, for marine biologists, and
so forth, as needed in the future.

Is  anyone  worried  that   net.bio   might   be   mistaken   for
net.biography?

	Carl
	..!ctvax!uokvax!rigney

wombat@uicsl.UUCP (12/21/83)

#R:elsie:-15100:uicsl:8200002:000:1557
uicsl!wombat    Dec 20 21:36:00 1983

Have any of you ever considered using net.med for biology discussions?
It's not like net.med has a lot of traffic, and I thought that part
of the reason it was created was so that various medical-type sites
on the net would have a niche to call their own.

Second point: How about a minimum of three weeks discussion before
creating/removing any group? If a subject deserves its own group,
it isn't going to go away (except in special cases like "The
Day After"), it will give a lot of people time to hear that a
group has been proposed/is about to be disposed of and give them
time to make their feelings known, and it will give discussions that
really are short-lived time to die, as well as giving the meta-
discussions about whether to put all that garbage some people
don't want to read into another group time to die out, also.
I think Dr. Who probably ought to stay in net.sf-lovers; after all
it's been running in the US for several years, and nobody wanted
a group for it until the special (note the word special, as in
event not happening often) ran.

Third point: People just can't bring themselves to get rid of
a group once it's been created. I wouldn't have the heart to
kill net.wobegon, even if I weren't too shy to ask people
for permission to kill it. Having lots of dead groups makes
things even harder for the newcomer to the net, since they
have to figure out where to send something after they get flamed
at for writing in net.general. A list several miles long can be
a bit discouraging.
						Wombat
						ihnp4!uiucdcs!uicsl!wombat