K312240@AEARN.BITNET (Klaus Kusche) (12/16/88)
Dear Mailing List! As I received some requests to sum up the results of my enquiry concerning Apollos and Transputers, here is what I got up to now: Unfortunately, there are not many e-mails to include directly: I got most informations by phone or Fax, and of the e-mails I got, the majority is in German. 1.) Apollo Switzerland is working on a TDSserver and an afserver, both integrated into Aegis (that means you can use them on any machine in the net, even if the T board is in another machine, moreover you have all the windowing etc.). Moreover, they have improved the TDS user interface, adding windows (i.e. you get popup and click menues instead of all the Fkeys and instead of navigating to the Utils fold and back). All that is in beta release and should work with any PC board, they don't offer any hardware for it and use inmos TRAM PC boards internally. There are no plans yet to use VME boards or to make that run in the Apollo 10000. Moreover, they are writing T servers to use the T boards according to their coprocessor software interface, i. e. you may call the boards from within your program running on the Apollo. That's still in the dust. The person to contact is Bruno Boeniger, adress and phone see PVR's list. He's also looking at other things (Helios, ...), but there are no concrete plans yet. 2.) Archipel: Does the same as Apollo, but in a simpler way. 3.) CSA: No response yet. Seem to have their boards and the LS C compiler running in Apollos. 4.) Some people of Siemens West Germany use transputer PC boards and the 3L C compiler internally, the interesting thing is that they use boards with no DMA or interrupts (simple polling, the original afserver). 5.) Many groups or companies expressed their interest in porting other things (Helios, Trollius, ...) to the combination of Apollo and PC boards if we want to buy that or cooperate with them, but up to now I got no info's that such things have already been done. (I agree that Trollius would perhaps be the best software for the Apollo). 6.) I didn't look closely at solutions using VME boards in Apollos, because we don't have VME slots in our machines. This also seems to be a possible way for the hardware, but there is obviously no software for that. 7.) Somebody of the transputer support centre ("AC1GAM@primea.sheffield.ac.uk") tried to e-mail me some info's concerning Apollo's, but unfortunately he used bytestream format for his mail, and BITNET didn't split that into records, hence I received only the first line. ****** Could that please be resent in a readable format!!!! ****** That's all for now, I'll post any additional info's I receive. Greetings Klaus Kusche (K312240@AEARN.BITNET). P.S.: I've the e-mail adresses of some companies in Great Britain I'd like to contact, but unfortunately there seems to be no legal way to send mail to any adresses ending in ".co.uk", the UK gateway refuses to forward anything to the commercial part of the British net. Some of the companies are on the UUCP, too, but is there a general, direct, stable and not-too-illegal way to ".co.uk" nodes from BITNET or ARPANET? If you know anything about that, *please* tell me!