trb@stag.UUCP (09/30/87)
The best version of uEmacs for the ST that I have seen so far is the version that was presented at the local ST developers' meeting last Friday. If I remember right, this is the version that was first modified by Moshe, then by Dale Schumacher, and more recently has been re-worked by both Dale Schumacher and John Stanley. This version uses Dales' DLIBS (a newer version than I posted about 3 months ago) and is quite fast, has the ability to 'clone' itself so you don't need any configuration files, and has a very nice shell interface (which was also written by Dale and John...some nice features like Ksh has). More on this when they get ready to post it to the world. -Todd Burkey trb@stag.UUCP For reference to the following message, see my posting in comp.editors: P.S. In response to the numerous responses to my comments on the features of my next 'weekend' project (a programmers' editor), I would like to thank everyone for the ideas. Yes, even the hate mail from emacs users was useful (it is strange how everyone gets so worked up on the modeless or not issue, since that is such a trivial thing when you are actually editting a file...maybe it is just the poor typers who hate two mode editors or something-i.e. always having to hit ESC to move up a line and change something :-) ). In the two weekends I have played around writing the editor so far, I have gotten all the screen manipulations (paging, scrolling, skip ahead, information popups), buffer handling (file readin, toggling between two buffers, cycling through buffers), and finalized the internal structures (that was one whole weekend because I decided to go to something which I think is similiar to the way emacs is structured...yes, I am still avoiding the temptation to look at the emacs source code.) To the flamers on the net, all I can say is that 1) right now I am using vi to edit this file on my Unix box...it is completely usable, but very slow at times (i.e. I was editting a 800K file the other day and made the mistake of telling it to do a global delete of something that caused about 600K of the file to go away...took 6 minutes to finish and 3 minutes to undo), and 2) I used the real EMACS for several years and it is neat, but big, clumsy at times, and slow...and I use uEmacs for all my program editting on my ST (it too is nice, but I don't like pressing two keys to do one thing and I don't like the way buffers are handled and the way you can't shift the screen around on the page...) Sorry for the long PS, but I like getting all the informational messages from emacs users :-). Any comments from the ST community out there (since this editor will be running on the ST first?)