[comp.editors] Survey: who uses line editors today? and for what?

ires@kaspar.UUCP (Bruce R. Larson) (10/22/90)

WILL YOU PLEASE TAKE A MINUTE AND EMAIL YOUR RESPONSES TO THIS QUESTION:

[ ]	Do ever use line editors?  If yes, which editors do you use and
	what do use them for (general line editor stuff like  global
	substitutions, or editing scripts, or ?)

Replies to:	kaspar!blarson@cs.umb.edu



Thank you in advance.  I am co-authoring a book on UNIX (with Paul
Abrahams) and we are trying to decide how extensive we should make
the section on `ex' as well as whether or not to include a section
on `ed.'

I will gladly summarize for the net if there is enough interest.

Bruce
kaspar!ires@cs.umb.edu
Integral Resources, Milton  MA

staff@cadlab.sublink.ORG (Alex Martelli) (10/25/90)

In comp.editors you write:

>WILL YOU PLEASE TAKE A MINUTE AND EMAIL YOUR RESPONSES TO THIS QUESTION:

Fer sure!-) I'll be VERY surprised if your banged-AND-snailed reply-to
address makes it through the mailers between, but, who knows.  I'm ALSO
posting this to comp.editors, just in case...:-)


>[ ]	Do ever use line editors?  If yes, which editors do you use and
>	what do use them for (general line editor stuff like  global
>	substitutions, or editing scripts, or ?)

OH BOY, DO I EVER!
I am an OCCASIONAL user of ed:
	- available on mini-root's, emergency boot floppy/tapes, when
		/usr is dismounted, etc;
	- small, fast to load, easily sticky-bit-settable, thus very
		good for altering files within shell-scripts, for altering
		LARGE files, etc;
	- available on Unix-alikes... on Coherent, I'd rather use ed
		than micro-emacs (...don't quote me, but... - also, micro-emacs
		is limited to 32K-byte files, ed has no such limits).

I am a VERY FREQUENT user of ex:
	- powerful and general for altering files within shell-scripts
	- best alternative when you can't fullscreen (installation
		problems, terminfo broken, etc)
	- perfectly usable, even on very SLOW serial lines (no, I do NOT
		want to use vi on a 1200 modem, even 2400 is marginal, give
		me straight ex for 90% of my work) and/or super-loaded machines
	- all the best stuff in vi is in the ":" command anyway :-)


>Thank you in advance.  I am co-authoring a book on UNIX (with Paul
>Abrahams) and we are trying to decide how extensive we should make
>the section on `ex' as well as whether or not to include a section
>on `ed.'

A short section on ed, maybe presented as an ex-subset, and a detailed
one on ex, would be appropriate in my opinion.  Others will disagree...

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