marwk@levels.sait.edu.au (01/01/91)
Some years ago an editor called PE was used by a co-worker. He liked it very much but does not now have the use of it. Is it available still? I have used it too. I think it was PD, but I am not sure as I no longer have access to the computer which had it on. This Personal Editor was a nice little editor with very sensible commands, and not too many of them. It is possible that it had special features like an assemble mode in which case was upper before a ';' and lower after it. Any pointers would be much appreciated. Thank you. Ray
Shawn.Hayes@samba.acs.unc.edu (Shawn Hayes) (01/02/91)
The original PE is/was a program that was written by/for IBM. I don't think it was ever made Public Domain, although it certainly made the rounds. There is at least one other editor that is now going by the name PE, Personal Editor from Buzzwords International.
staff@cadlab.sublink.ORG (Alex Martelli) (01/02/91)
marwk@levels.sait.edu.au writes: >Some years ago an editor called PE was used by a co-worker. He liked >it very much but does not now have the use of it. >Is it available still? >I have used it too. I think it was PD, but I am not sure as I no >longer have access to the computer which had it on. Both PE, and PE2, were still on the IBM PC software catalogs in 1988. PE was a regular program product, PE2 was one of the wonderful little "Personally Developed Software" entries (as were the Imperial Space Command game, and so many other nifties), thus PE2 cost far less, despite being much better than good old PE. Anyway, PDSW was terminated in IBM sometime in 87-88... maybe the old PE is still on the catalog, although I would doubt it. Other IBM internal-use-only editors, over the years, mimicked and evolved the PE interface - I recall huge, powerful E3 (I think its developer later left IBM and for a while marketed a similar program on its own... maybe someone can followup on this?), and tiny, brilliant T, the 9-Kbyte wonder. Good luck in finding some follow-up look-alike, or, if you're still on Messydos, some old, used, dusty but workable storeroom remainder... -- Alex Martelli - CAD.LAB s.p.a., v. Stalingrado 53, Bologna, Italia Email: (work:) staff@cadlab.sublink.org, (home:) alex@am.sublink.org Phone: (work:) ++39 (51) 371099, (home:) ++39 (51) 250434; Fax: ++39 (51) 366964 (work only), Fidonet: 332/401.3 (home only).
hollen@megatek (Dion Hollenbeck) (01/03/91)
In article <15796.2780ada0@levels.sait.edu.au> marwk@levels.sait.edu.au writes: > > Some years ago an editor called PE was used by a co-worker. He liked > it very much but does not now have the use of it. > > Is it available still? As far as I know, NO. It was upgraded to version 2.0 (I was using 1.0) and then became no longer available. > I have used it too. I think it was PD, but I am not sure as I no longer > have access to the computer which had it on. Definitely NOT PD. The logo and copyright say "IBM". The editor I am using now is Multi-Edit by American Cybernetics in Tempe, Az. This has the same basic principle as Emacs (which I use at work) in that the core text, window and buffer functions are written in C and everything else in a macro language using the core C functions (macro language somewhat like Pascal). In this manner, you can make any changes you like to the user interface and most of the functions. You can re-do the key mappings to make it look like any editor you want (PE included). -- Dion Hollenbeck (619) 455-5590 x2814 Megatek Corporation, 9645 Scranton Road, San Diego, CA 92121 uunet!megatek!hollen or hollen@megatek.uucp
linden@fwi.uva.nl (Onno van der Linden) (01/04/91)
There is a PE2 clone called CSE available from <msdos.editor> on simtel and mirrors/msdos/editor on wuarchive.There is one bug/feature:the shell command only works on the drive command.com is on (this is for version 3.10). Onno van der Linden linden@fwi.uva.nl
mshiels@tmsoft.uucp (Michael A. Shiels) (01/04/91)
Too bad you didn't post this earlier. The company I work for just through out a 10x10x20 garbage bin full of old software/hardware etc that we just couldn't get rid of. Lots of old PC Jr software. Lots of old IBM/Compaq etc software (INCLUDING SHRINK WRAPPED PE). Sorry. It would be really hard to find a copy I would think in most stores.
cortesi@informix.com (David Cortesi) (01/05/91)
In article <581@cadlab.sublink.ORG> staff@cadlab.sublink.ORG (Alex Martelli) writes: >... Other IBM internal-use-only editors, over >the years, mimicked and evolved the PE interface - I recall huge, >powerful E3 (I think its developer later left IBM and for a while >marketed a similar program on its own... maybe someone can followup on >this?) Oh yes, please! I used E3 to write a book and about 10,000 lines of Pascal and C in 86-87. It remains my all-time favorite editor, blindingly fast on a 286, user-extensible in a C-like syntax, just a wonderful editor in almost every way. I think of it whenever vi tells me "ls: Not an editor command." Why? Because when E3 was given a command it couldn't parse, it automatically shelled it out to DOS, so the DOS command set was an extension of E3's. Hey, vi, if you *know* it isn't an editor command... E3 had only three shortcomings: one, it was labelled IBM Internal Use Only; two, its pattern search wasn't full RE; and three, it had very nearly the worst documentation I ever tried to read.
robertre@microsoft.UUCP (Robert Reichel ms2) (01/10/91)
In article <581@cadlab.sublink.ORG> staff@cadlab.sublink.ORG (Alex Martelli) writes: >I recall huge, >powerful E3 (I think its developer later left IBM and for a while >marketed a similar program on its own... maybe someone can followup on >this?), and tiny, brilliant T, the 9-Kbyte wonder. I believe the editor you're describing is called Slick, and it is alive and well. I don't know the torrid history of IBM editors, but having used Slick a lot and PE a little I find them very similar. For example, the funky expand/contract tabs behavior described by another poster is there exactly. Slick is huge, and has a REXX-like macro language that I find very easy to use. Key bindings are similar to Emacs, and it supports Emacs and Brief emulation modes (not being an Emacs or Brief user, I don't know how good they are). It's very fast, and I haven't been able to create a file too big for it to handle. It works under OS/2 and Dos. I don't remember what it costs. Slick is available from many retail outlets, or directly from: MicroEdge, Inc Calibre Chase Dr Apt 100-307 Raleigh, NC 27609 (919) 831-0662 The guy answering the phone is the author, so support is pretty good :-). This is not an endorsement by Microsoft or anyone else but me. -- Robert Reichel {decvax,uunet,uw-beaver}!microsoft!robertre