rohit@dmdev.UUCP (Rohit Mehrotra) (01/09/91)
A lookalike/workalike of Brief editor on Dos called Crisp is now
available on Unix / Vax.
It is a SHAREWARE program (available from the uunet archive), which has
been successfully ported to SunOS, SCO Unix/Xenix, Esix, Interactive Unix,
Ultrix, SysV, Berkley, AIX.
There is a mailing list for the users of Crisp. For more info mail to
owner-crisp-list@uunet.uu.net.
To the question as to what brief is, it is an editor like vi, with the
following features:
1) It does not have two modes.
2) has context sensitive functionality i.e pressing the END key takes
you to the end of line, pressing it again would take you to the end
of page, and pressing it again would take you to the end of document.
3) It has all the regular expressions that vi supports with additional
functionality for block searching etc.
4) It has features like Column Cutting / Pasting etc.
5) Multiple windows, with the ability to zoom/unzoom a window.
6) Can be used for formatting documents, like autowrap etc.
7) Has a spell checker built in.
8) Has a template for editing C/Pascal/Assembly files, i.e typing "d"
followed by a space bar completes the do-while loop.
9) Can check/reply to mail from within the editor.
10) Cut and Paste between windows.
11) Multiple Undo unlike vi.
Any programmer from the DOS world would be able to tell more about it.
It is the largest selling editor in the DOS world. Cut and Paste, Formatting
etc is very simple in this editor, as it does not use two modes.
______________________________________________________________________
--
Rohit Mehrotra
Fleet Credit Corporation
8325 NW 53rd St, Miami, Fl 33166.
E-MAIL Address uunet!dmdev!rohit VOICE 1-(305)-477-0390 Ext 469tcs@mailer.jhuapl.edu (Carl Schelin) (01/10/91)
In article <190@dmdev.UUCP>, rohit@dmdev.UUCP (Rohit Mehrotra) says: > < stuff deleted about Crisp, probably a great editor for Unix > > >Any programmer from the DOS world would be able to tell more about it. >It is the largest selling editor in the DOS world. Cut and Paste, Formatting >etc is very simple in this editor, as it does not use two modes. > >______________________________________________________________________ >-- >Rohit Mehrotra >Fleet Credit Corporation >8325 NW 53rd St, Miami, Fl 33166. >E-MAIL Address uunet!dmdev!rohit VOICE 1-(305)-477-0390 Ext 469 Sorry to disappoint you, but I can't stand Brief. I perfer using QEdit for all of my work. Simple but effective. I once watched someone trying to set it up and he eventually had to expand his environment to 3096 bytes. Of course, this is only my opinion and I do not represent in any sense of the word "Any programmer". ;-) No thanks... (but thanks anyway :-) Carl Schelin tcs@mailer.jhuapl.edu
d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) (01/11/91)
In article <1991Jan9.195507.23848@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> tcs@mailer.jhuapl.edu (Carl Schelin) writes: >In article <190@dmdev.UUCP>, rohit@dmdev.UUCP (Rohit Mehrotra) says: > < stuff deleted about Crisp, probably a great editor for Unix > >>Any programmer from the DOS world would be able to tell more about it. >Sorry to disappoint you, but I can't stand Brief. I perfer using QEdit for Fer chrissake, don't post this stuff to zillions of newsgroups... Followups to comp.editors. Comp.unix.aux isn't very interested, since we've got FAR superior editors on the mac ;-) (Like, Alpha 3.08 for instance. Or MS Word 4.0) H+ Jon W{tte, Stockholm, Sweden, h+@nada.kth.se
allbery@NCoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery KB8JRR) (01/11/91)
As quoted from <1991Jan9.195507.23848@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> by tcs@mailer.jhuapl.edu (Carl Schelin): +--------------- | In article <190@dmdev.UUCP>, rohit@dmdev.UUCP (Rohit Mehrotra) says: | > | < stuff deleted about Crisp, probably a great editor for Unix > | > | >Any programmer from the DOS world would be able to tell more about it. | >It is the largest selling editor in the DOS world. Cut and Paste, Formatting | >etc is very simple in this editor, as it does not use two modes. | | Sorry to disappoint you, but I can't stand Brief. I perfer using QEdit for | all of my work. Simple but effective. I once watched someone trying to | set it up and he eventually had to expand his environment to 3096 bytes. +--------------- I prefer Emacs myself --- but save the editor wars for some other newsgroup. Or, better, mail. What was that "*now* available", anyway? There are *two* versions of CRISP for Unix in the comp.sources.misc archives, both fairly old by now --- it's by no means a new program. ++Brandon -- Me: Brandon S. Allbery VHF/UHF: KB8JRR on 220, 2m, 440 Internet: allbery@NCoast.ORG Packet: KB8JRR @ WA8BXN America OnLine: KB8JRR AMPR: KB8JRR.AmPR.ORG [44.70.4.88] uunet!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast!allbery Delphi: ALLBERY
fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars P. Fischer) (01/11/91)
>>>>> On 9 Jan 91 14:26:22 GMT, rohit@dmdev.UUCP (Rohit Mehrotra) said:
Rohit> A lookalike/workalike of Brief editor on Dos called Crisp is now
Rohit> available on Unix / Vax. ...
Rohit> To the question as to what brief is, it is an editor like vi, with the
Rohit> following features:
Rohit> ....
Sounds like a rather feeble attempt at imitating GNU Emacs. Is it
extensible? Built in programming language? Will it walk the dog?
BTW: Did you really have to post this to every newsgroup in sight?
/Lars
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Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | Q: How does a project get to be one
CS Dept., Univ. of Aalborg, DENMARK. | year late? A: One day at a time.dona@vicstoy.UUCP (Don Allen) (01/12/91)
In article <1991Jan9.195507.23848@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> tcs@mailer.jhuapl.edu (Carl Schelin) writes: >In article <190@dmdev.UUCP>, rohit@dmdev.UUCP (Rohit Mehrotra) says: >> > > < stuff deleted about Crisp, probably a great editor for Unix > > >> >>Any programmer from the DOS world would be able to tell more about it. >>It is the largest selling editor in the DOS world. Cut and Paste, Formatting >>etc is very simple in this editor, as it does not use two modes. >> >>______________________________________________________________________ >>-- >>Rohit Mehrotra >>Fleet Credit Corporation >>8325 NW 53rd St, Miami, Fl 33166. >>E-MAIL Address uunet!dmdev!rohit VOICE 1-(305)-477-0390 Ext 469 > >Sorry to disappoint you, but I can't stand Brief. I perfer using QEdit for >all of my work. Simple but effective. I once watched someone trying to >set it up and he eventually had to expand his environment to 3096 bytes. > >Of course, this is only my opinion and I do not represent in any sense >of the word "Any programmer". ;-) > >No thanks... (but thanks anyway :-) > >Carl Schelin >tcs@mailer.jhuapl.edu Although I have both vi and Qedit on my pc at work, I absolutely love the EASY way in which QEdit works.. Simple to use, easy to understand and as close as intuitive for a DOS machine with it's "pop-up" menus. Highly recommended and easily configurable to a custom setup. Available on just about any IBM BBS anywheres. -Don- -- Don Allen // Amiga is it! USnail: 1818G Landing Dr, Sanford Fl 32771 \X/ UUCP: ..uunet!tarpit!bilver!vicstoy!dona Illuminati/CFR/TLC/S&L Crisis
shawn@marilyn.UUCP (Shawn P. Stanley) (01/13/91)
In article <1991Jan9.195507.23848@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> tcs@mailer.jhuapl.edu (Carl Schelin) writes: >I can't stand Brief. I perfer using QEdit for all of my work. Simple >but effective. I once watched someone trying to set it up and he >eventually had to expand his environment to 3096 bytes. 3096?! I use 800 bytes, and I've got lots of applications installed on my system with environment needs (compilers, database apps, Brief, and a couple other editors). I think maybe something else on his system is the environment hog. -- Shawn P. Stanley shawn@marilyn.marilyn.mn.org tcnet!marilyn!shawn {rosevax,crash}!orbit!marilyn!shawn
jsb@panix.uucp (J. S. B'ach) (01/13/91)
)What was that "*now* available", anyway? There are *two* versions of CRISP
)for Unix in the comp.sources.misc archives, both fairly old by now --- it's by
)no means a new program.
Well, it's new to me, only I can't seem to unpack it. Part01 seems to
say that running CRISP.Inst will do it all but it looks like I'd better
unshar all the other parts first since the makefile part01 wants to run
is in part22. However, since it suggests I run it as root, can someone
confirm that this is the right way to do it? I don't like to run as
root when I have a "reasonable doubt".
--
jim (rutgers!cmcl2!panix!jsb, uunet!jyacc!jsb, or uunet!echo!jimb)jeb@dolphin.ocean.washington.edu ( Jeb Palmer) (01/15/91)
In article <1991Jan12.202253.2759@panix.uucp> jsb@panix.uucp (J. S. B'ach) writes:
)What was that "*now* available", anyway? There are *two* versions of CRISP
)for Unix in the comp.sources.misc archives, both fairly old by now --- it's by
)no means a new program.
Well, it's new to me, only I can't seem to unpack it. Part01 seems to
say that running CRISP.Inst will do it all but it looks like I'd better
unshar all the other parts first since the makefile part01 wants to run
is in part22. However, since it suggests I run it as root, can someone
confirm that this is the right way to do it? I don't like to run as
root when I have a "reasonable doubt".
--
It seems that you DO have to either change CRISP.Inst or first unpack
and rename the CRISP distribution files in order to build it. Another
BIG caveat: There are numerous places in the source where "/usr/local"
or some such path is hard-wired. You might want to run a SED script
on the distribution to make sure everything goes where you want it to.
Good luck.
--
Jeb Palmer
School of Oceanography WB-10
University of Washington
Seattle, WA 98195
jeb@u.washington.edu,jeb@dolphin.ocean.washington.edurohit@dmdev.UUCP (Rohit Mehrotra) (03/13/91)
INTRODUCTION TO CRISP:
A lookalike/workalike of Brief editor on Dos called Crisp is available on
Unix / Vax.
It is a FREEWARE program which has been successfully ported to SunOS,
SCO Unix/Xenix, Esix, Interactive Unix, Ultrix, SysV, Berkley, AIX etc.
There is a mailing list for the users CURRENTLY using Crisp.
For more info on CRISP mail to owner-crisp-list@uunet.uu.net. INCLUDE
YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS AND THE PALTFORM INCLUDING O.S AND ENVIRONMENT
THAT YOU WOULD BE USING CRISP ON.
To the question as to what brief is, it is an editor like vi, with the
following features:
1) It does not have two modes.
2) has context sensitive functionality i.e pressing the END key takes
you to the end of line, pressing it again would take you to the end
of page, and pressing it again would take you to the end of document.
3) It has all the regular expressions that vi supports with additional
functionality for block searching etc.
4) It has features like Column Cutting / Pasting etc.
5) Multiple windows, with the ability to zoom/unzoom a window.
6) Can be used for formatting documents, like autowrap etc.
7) Has a spell checker built in.
8) Has a template for editing C/Pascal/Assembly files, i.e typing "d"
followed by a space bar completes the do-while loop.
9) Can check/reply to email from within the editor.
10) Cut and Paste between windows.
11) Multiple Undo unlike vi.
12) Can edit unlimited size file ( unlike Vi )
13) Doesn't line wrap but scorlls left and right makes reading code and
data much easier.
14) Has complete programing language to allow you to build your own
functions and assign them to keys.
15) When editing multiple files, one can switch between them in any
order unlike vi.
16) Can have a window pop up to display the list of files in a directory,
for editing.
17) It shows the column and the line number at all times.
A programmer from the DOS world would be able to tell more about it.
It is the largest selling editor in the DOS world. Cut and Paste, Formatting
etc is very simple in this editor, as it does not use two modes.
NOTE: This posting is NOT meant to start a religous war on editors. If you
like vi (I do/did too) or emacs it is great, however if you would like
to see another one then check crisp out, you may like it.
--
Rohit Mehrotra
Fleet Credit Corporation
8325 NW 53rd St, Miami, Fl 33166.
E-MAIL Address uunet!dmdev!rohit VOICE 1-(305)-477-0390 Ext 469