[comp.editors] Epsilon or BRIEF or Sage Editor -- Which is better ?

melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) (03/29/91)

Does anyone have any comments on Epsilon?  I have heard that it's one
of the best PC editors.

-Mike

peregrin@hulaw1.harvard.edu (04/02/91)

In article <=19G=+cb1@cs.psu.edu>, melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) writes:
> 
> Does anyone have any comments on Epsilon?  I have heard that it's one
> of the best PC editors.
> 
	I started using Epsilon when I got fed up with the Turbo Pascal
built-in editor (64KB limit, 1 file at a time).  Being familiar with EMACS, I
had no problem getting started.
	The version I used (I had it 1-1/2 ago) had no mouse support nor
menues.  But I loved it.  I generally did compilation by spawning off a process
(Epsilon then shrinks to a few KB) and running Make.
	If you like EMACS, you'll like Epsilon.  I haven't tried its macro
language, but it's just like C.
	I don't crave menus and mice with my editors because I hate losing time
by taking my hands off the keyboard.  I only like pull down menus with an
editor if they can ease configuring the editor.  I'm not impressed with Brief
or any of those other editors with menus and stacked windows.  I hate having to
use a mouse to move and expand windows.  Slows me down.
	I'm fond of Epsilon's ability to run DOS in a window.  I've often used
that to save transcripts of line-drive program output/error messages.  Of
course it doesn't allow you to run anything but simple line driven programs in
the window.
	I would be using Epsilon to this day, but I changed jobs, and I can't
afford my own personal copy (steep, in my opinion).  So I use MicroEMACS 
these days.

	My wish-list for Epsilon : A menu driven configuration set-up.
				   Vertical Split Screens.
				   Key binding templates to emulate
				   WordPerfect, Wordstar, EVE, EDT.

James
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jallen@libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu (Joseph Allen) (04/06/91)

In article <1991Apr2.103402.1@hulaw1.harvard.edu> peregrin@hulaw1.harvard.edu writes:

[praise for epsilon deleted]

>	I would be using Epsilon to this day, but I changed jobs, and I can't
>afford my own personal copy (steep, in my opinion).  So I use MicroEMACS 
>these days.

What?!  You didn't take copy for yourself?  You must have missed the fine-print
in the company software license: "All employees may make a copy for themselves,
they're extended family, people whose favor they're trying to win, and
any other nice people they may know (now or in the future)."

(but seriously...  I know police departments whose officers trade stolen
software with each other (hey this confiscated computer has lotus 123... we
could use a copy of that!) so don't worry.  Sheesh, you sound like you're
a software developer or programmer or something :-)

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